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Sartasz · 07-20-2009, 02:25 AM

Any opinions on Void-Touched Kunarkian Robe vs. T2/T3 set robes? I've been using the void touched robe (updated Crimson Robe of Alendine) and just got my Nethersummoned Robe of Fiery Destruction tonight, and although T3 robe looks better on paper my DPS just feels lower. I haven't run any dummy parses yet but am I overvaluing that 10% casting haste?

Hazazal · 07-20-2009, 05:36 PM

I prefer the vp robe over the void touched

twisty · 07-21-2009, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by s3id0n

the wording '1.8 times per minute' doesnt actually state that it will proc 2 times per minute on average. It states, actually, that it has a proc chance of 8%*(base casting time of the spell), and that 8% starts to diminish as soon as the proc hits twice per given minute. So in reality it procs like 4 to 6-7 times per minute, and that prety much keeps the proc up all the time.
Apart from that? Practice, perhaps. The procs from unrest and even dragonscale are up all the time for me too.
And at last, your proc rates are really higher then 1.8. 4 bards with shard chests/5set bonuses and you almost permanently get a 2.2 ppm, which is WAY higher then 1.8 in reality. And you can also occasionally run a dirge/templar in grp

S3idon, thanx for taking a shot to answer. Don't think I understand how your logic jumps to "in reality it's like 4 to 6-7 per minute", however. Are you saying that the diminishing that starts after it procs 2x is actually not that severe? Does this have anything to do with base casting speed of a spell vs effective speed affecting how proc chances are calculated? I thought that applied only to procs with straight % in description ala Tandem.

Further, my tests with Etharnauts earing don't support the 4-6 ppm suggestion - it's fairly evenly spread out over 1-5 range with median of 2.

Not sure how your raid or group differ from mine, but our mage group is never with clerics (/sad) and despite having 3-4 bards in raid consistently I don't see my proc rates change from 1.8x

Davngr · 07-21-2009, 05:54 AM

indeed collection ear can not be modified and after the proc adjustment i stoped using it.

Sciomar · 07-21-2009, 07:10 AM

How the fuck does the ethernaut earring proc have anything to do with the white dragonscale cloak proc (which is modifiable)?

Hazazal · 07-21-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sciomar

How the fuck does the ethernaut earring proc have anything to do with the white dragonscale cloak proc (which is modifiable)?

ADD duh?

Davngr · 07-21-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciomar

How the fuck does the ethernaut earring proc have anything to do with the white dragonscale cloak proc (which is modifiable)?

i duno... i was commention on the ear lol

twisty · 07-21-2009, 05:45 PM

Yes, clearly ADD is to blame. What?

Anyway, the Ethernauts earing only entered the conversation because I decided to treat its proc similar to Dragonscale Cloak for convenience, since I can ACT Ethernauts proc. Sciomar, can you please elaborate on what Dragonscale Cloak proc can be modified to, unlike the Ethernauts earing.

is it that it can just proc more often? what's your listed proc rate in raid on the Cloak?

necroboy · 08-18-2009, 06:43 PM

i just got my 6 set bonus and heard the 5 set dosnt work. that true?

Lakrohne · 08-18-2009, 11:08 PM

it partially does not work.

if you look at the set bonuses, there is 2 marked for 5piece. The second one is blank. that is what people mean when they say it doesn't work.