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Old 09-15-2008, 05:33 PM  
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CoD trash merge. Some crash clients, so raid dps is only 98k and i used 4 lb`s, always 3, but now 4, cause of waiting guys. JCaps, always, when i need. Group: illy(tc), templar, ranger, troub and don`t remember ^^
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Old 09-19-2008, 02:46 PM  
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Sundays parse from VP from Druushk to Phara (system crashed so the parses from the start where not saved). My dps seems low not sure what to do to fix it.



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No wizzy in raid. Group had the only troub. illy was in scout group. Had Tandem. Dont have a normal raid group. only 1 Troub in raid so didint get Jcapped all the time.

Casting order is, Glut and Dumbfires on pull, Coil(m1)>Rot(m1)>DL(m1)>Rot>Pand(ad3)>Coil LB at 40/50% depending on how fast the mob is going.


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Sundays parse from VP from Druushk to Phara (system crashed so the parses from the start where not saved). My dps seems low not sure what to do to fix it.
You can't expect to top the parse as a Necro this expansion unless the Rogues, Predators, Conjurors and Sorcerers fail, because tbh the class has been rather badly overlooked. However;

1) Lifeburn no longer does enough DPS to rip aggro no matter when you use it. There's absolutely no need to wait for the mob to be at 50% when a single autoattack from the tank can do as much as a lifeburn tick. You'll maximise your DPS if you can hit LB the instant it's back up (and hopefully get bolstered and jcapped at the same time), and your real concern should be making sure it ticks for the full duration before the mob dies.

2) Get the wis/sta siphon early on in your cast order. It's not gonna make your dps skyrocket but it's sloppy from a raid perspective to not debuff, and the extra sta gives you a little more lifeburn damage. Of course what will help your dps is if the whole raid debuffs wis and disease as much as possible, and to do that they need to be in the mindset that debuffs are a good thing rather than a drain on their personal dps.

3) If you're not already done it set /pet melee instead of /pet ranged and quickly summon the pet behind the mob at the start of the fight, so it swings between casts. With a mythical raid having CoB up constantly, having yourself and your pet meleeing is gonna contribute at least a few hundred extra DPS, and proc Gluttony/Fae Pyre/other stuff more. You also want to be stood behind the mob in melee range when casting dumbfires so they don't waste time travelling to the target or die to frontal/ripostes. In short you want yourself and your pet behind the mob and in melee range asap.

4) Speaking of Gluttony, don't precast it, the cast time and duration is pretty short and you want the pet already in position and casting+meleeing before using it.

5) It's obvious, but get the Illu in your group. Try to get casters to put spare buffs on your pet. The way summoners get really good parses is by exploiting the fact they can proc PoTM/CoB/Gift and other buffs 2x as much as classes that don't have a pet and hence a lot of the DPS relies on these buff classes being mastered and played/geared well, rather than the summoner themself. It's unfortunate but the difference between parsing 3k and 7k can often be almost completely out of your hands.
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Old 09-20-2008, 12:16 AM  
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Ya. i dont precast Glut. i hit it when the mob is in position, i didint list my debuffs in my casting order as i sometimes dont remember to hit them. Our guild doesnt always have all the classes it needs. somtimes 1 troub, somtimes no furys (when she is online she is with scouts) at out best we haev 2 illys, yet i need to ask for Tandems. they go into scout groups first. and until this week we where lucky to have 2 dirges online. our raid dps is (the highest i have seen) is 95k normaly we are at 60/70.

i wait till around 50% to LB so its finished by the time the mob is dead. and am meleeing on each mob, (other than the golums that AE knockback) so far my highest parse is about 7700 with a well times LB.

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Old 09-20-2008, 11:24 AM  
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Yep but what I mean is for zonewide DPS, it's less about parsing high on the occasional mob, and more about consistently using high damage abilities immediately when they become available.

If you're ever 'waiting' to use lifeburn, or any other high damage ability (i.e. it's not refreshing, and you're not casting it), then you're losing ZW dps. The only exception would be if the mob isn't gonna survive another 15 seconds so the final ticks would be wasted, or if your healer isn't gonna be able to heal it.

I think all DPS classes sometimes have to fight the urge to wait for all their timers to be up so they can put out a huge parse, but doing this regularly is gonna gimp a ZW like nothing else. I think most people have seen the assassins that spam 10k parses on heroic nameds in groups, but then their actual ZW is around 3k since they've been virtually just autoattacking the trash. Of course a good DPSer learns zones and when best to use stuff to balance the need for spike damage on nameds against the need for consistently high DPS, and I guess that's where the real skill lies.

Holding lifeburn till the mob is at 50% is a habit you probably picked up raiding in EoF, when it genuinely did enough damage to peel aggro if you weren't careful. But at most in RoK it's gonna spike your personal (without pets) DPS to about ~5k, and a good tank can easily outparse that, never mind hold aggro to it.
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Thanks, i didint get to raid EoF as much as i would of liked. i hit 70 a week before RoK came out, i never wait to LB unless i know my healer cant heal me, and the whole 50% hp thing is just for the timing, at 50% i hit LB, so the mobs are dead by the time its finished. With my casting order there is never down time. Im always casting somthing (unless im slacking)
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Chugun : 39hits Lifeburn in 7:56 ?
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Chugun : 39hits Lifeburn in 7:56 ?
yea that's 4 lifeburns in less then 8 minutes.. i just with i could find raids that would cater to me this way

ps. clearly he's getting Jcap/roa and who knows waht else.. unless it's a typo of some sort

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Chugun : 39hits Lifeburn in 7:56 ?
3 Jcap and w8ing for ppl, who crush, so 4, not 3 as usuall
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