Toggie

I downloaded ACT, neato program. I thought I'd run through some DPS tests.

I took my level 41 brig out to Steamfont. I pick a level 41 pale spitting spider. I do the standard sneak, backstab, walk the plank, stun, run through backstabs, then finish off with HO. Mob dead, about 6 seconds according to ACT. 560 DPS... pretty impressive.

I go through a couple more mobs that equal my level. They consist of other spiders, minotaur, etc. etc... about the same. I go from about 480 dps to about 630 or so on a good burst.

I log in my freshly 72 conjuror. He's in RoK gear with AD3 / Master spells, 620 int. I was pretty disappointed by seeing 450ish on single target mobs and about 650 on times where I get two at the same time and can AOE.

I do the same with my freshly 70 necro. Rok gear with AD3 / Master spells, 690 int (cept darkness which I just use to pull) and he cranks about 400-500 at max.

Somethings wrong here. I know there is a difference between RoK mobs and steamfont yard trash, but really that much?! I don't want to make this another summoners need SERIOUS help thread, we have enough, but has anyone else seen or can confirm this insanity?

Should I not assume that my DPS should be much higher on my higher level toons than on a level 41? Am I just comparing apples to oranges?

Aerlik, please give the summoners some luv ( and not nerf anyone ). This is depressing. I'm a pet lover at heart.

I can only imagine the parses at 80 with VP stuff on, since it benefits melee more than casters. What do brigs / brawlers parse at 80 vs summoners? Anyone got any fast numbers? The stuff I saw when I searched was CRAZY numbers like 7-9k on some encounters, and I didn't think that reflected real, true encounters for normal people.

(Sorry if this seems hard to read / stream of consciousness type posting. Work turns my brains into puddin)
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Davngr

ext dps isin't the tell all number since it's relative to how long the mob takes to die. having said that summoners have never been a burst dmg class, they need time to ramp dmg. the sad part is that now summonrs still have no burst dmg and fall short on long encounters too.

long story short, the faster the kill the higher the ext dps.

Toggie

Ahh, so I was reading it wrong. Cool.
Thanks Davngr. I'll work on getting finishing out the levels, run some instances and compare my DPS with other Summoners. Hopefully by then Aerlik will be done with rebalancing us.

Payhn

honestly i think you need to check aa's on your necro/conjy figure out diff spell rotation something the is no reason to be doinf under 1k. should work on getting that int up to 690 is nothing when hard cap is 1220. also what is your spell crit and BOE at?

The dps on the brig sound about right my brig is lvl 60 with mastercrafted gear and all adept 3's and put up 1k on sngle targets with 54 aa.

Malachani

You also need to consider that a summoner is not going to be doing the best dps when in solo mode. They perform best when they have someone else to take the hits for them. When I solo with my 80 necro (only 111 AA's atm) she does about 600-750ish dps. In a group, even without any of the GOOD buffs, like a troub or illy, she can do over 1500. Give her a troub and illy, and she is over 2k. She also uses totally different AA setups in these two scenarios. Here's some tips on AA setups and what order to get them to be most effective: http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/p...opic_id=414795

Yeah I know, those numbers aren't as impressive as some other necro's, but her gear is all quested/ROK instanced attained hehe. Give me a few months to get comfy in this expansion and she'll get to see the light of day a bit more often and gear up in some TSO stuff!

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Toggie

Well, I'm about 75 AA's in, I've done Stam 4-4-4-8, Wis 4-4-8-2, Gravecalling 5-5(scout)-5(Blighted Horde), then down to tainted heals. Not the greatest DPS build in the Necro line, but need those heals.

Perhaps some more AA's will help. Thanks for the help everyone.

On the off topic, what's the best DPS melee priest? Mystic, Warden or Inq?

Burnout

There is no reason you should be doing less than 1K no matter how long or short the solo fight is.

Also keep in mind that with ACT you need to have your pet named the same as you are to get an accurate DPS number.

Malachani

I really don't like when people make statements like this. There ARE reasons when solo that you aren't hitting that numbers.

1. the necro is only lvl 70 and doesn't have enough AA's to even begin to scratch the surface of their DPS potential.
2. Gear is subpar, which happens when the necro either leveled very fast, or has not done many of the ROK quests to get the gear they offer.
3. Tho not the reason in this case, not having Adept 3's/Masters is another reason one wouldn't hit the number.
4. Simply not having a good strategy when soloing, or preferring survival over dps in a solo situation.

I haven't solo'd on my necro in a while (she's just an alt, and I've been busy on my main since the expansion) so I can't give an accurate number on my solo dps, but I know it wasn't very high, because I opted to let my pet tank, and use spells that healed him rather than dpsing more and grabbing agro.

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Burnout

Well obviously if you are killing stuff that way, but the OP stated that they were trying to run up a high parse, not solo'ing letting the pet tank.

We aren't talking about solo'ing, we are talking about parsing.

Malachani

Parsing solo. And he even said he's spec'd into tainted heals, and only has 600ish int. I bet he has almost no +spell dmg or crits either. At 70, the dmg potential for a Necro that has no T6/T7 raid gear is going to be completely different than an 80 necro in T8 solo quested/instance gear.

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