Yummy

Example from the parse thread:

http://www.eq2flames.com/necromancer...tml#post916465

540 1/2 Precise Note
340 1/2 Dissonant Note
250 1/2 Ice Lash
355 Grim Embrace
312 Grim Bolt
307 Grim Wave
150 1/2 POM
150 1/2 Consume (since you're arguing pet casting speed is so big a deal)
276 Grim Devistation
230 Grim Lifetap
230 Grim Distortion
225 Wrath of undead servant
176 Minion's Mark
88 Clawing of the soul
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3629 / 13000 < 28%

Way to school me.

Rocksie

I give, you win.


...or something.

Yummy

Either way, I ignored the OP because it was 3 months old and this thread was necroposted by someone who made no mention of wanting a raid setup, so I provided my general purpose one.

Peace.

Yummy

That's nice coming from a self professed noobie that knows such much about mythical pets...

http://www.eq2flames.com/necromancer...lp-noobie.html
http://www.eq2flames.com/necromancer...lp-noobie.html
http://www.eq2flames.com/necromancer...oobie-out.html
http://www.eq2flames.com/necromancer...does-tank.html

To answer your question, no.. you're not a summoner that knows how to play.

Davngr

i would personaly dump 5 into STA in summoner line

take BP instead of tainted heals and max out both limited pets in necro tree

and take the points out of group/self buffs in mage TSO tree and dump them into summoner, also i would take points out of pact in necro TSO line and put them in the nox cure.

just offering some ideas if you want to max your dps

twisty

oh yummy, yummy... how i wish you'd had taken my advice about slowly crawling away but burning you further will only bring me pleasure now.

way to take Utopi's dps of 13k for your feeble attempt to cover that your foot is lodged in your esophagus. there are probably 3 necroes in the entire game that have his level of gear. anywhere between 8 and 10k is currently considered "very good" necro dps, excluding the Palace abortion. on the other hand, 3-3.5k epic pet is pretty standard across the board with only a couple strong pet-stat pieces. you lose, silly goose. say you're sorry you opened your mouth about "pffft your pets is less 20% of your dps".

and lookie there, you actually bothered to research me! i'm so honored. alas, you're a shitty Sherlock Holmes. otherwise you'd notice that those posts were from 6-8months ago - you know, 1-2months after picking up the game.

Rocksie

Thanks, interesting ideas... where would I take the five points from in the summoner line? And is it really worth the extra sta, won't eventual high end gear make this kind of obsolete?

Sciomar

I don't have 200 AA's on my necro yet since it's moved to alt status atm, but if I did and when I do get 200 on it this is what my AA lines would/will look like. A mixture of survivability and dps.
For the summoner tree you don't want minion's warding maxed because you will survive more ae's than the pet if an ae hits and bloodpact isn't on but it's nice to share some of the damage and you need to have 6 points somewhere to unlock the final ability ( it's not amazing or anything but meh why not, not every chanter is solid).
For the necromancer tree I still say dumbfires/swarms are stupid to use atm, but this spec will have them at the ready for those of you who do use them because tbh there isn't shit else worth putting those points in, and fuck you /delete yourself if you say ooze crawler. There's still some serious ae's so bloodpact is very good to have and can be kept on full time if placed in the right group, tainted heals will never keep up with it.
For the shadow lines ( I think my math is correct on those), I always like to have my hp maxed anyway I can, but the other 5 points can really go anywhere else you want. Personally I'd pick power or run speed. Next line down again is aimed at survivability and dps, master strike is nice but can't be used against every epic encounter ( suppose you could take the points from fd and put here). The next lines down need no explanation tbh, except maybe the cure, healers aren't always going to be there and a free nox cure is pro. Dehate for a summoner is a joke just like dimensional storage.

And as to the debate about how much of our dps the pet accounts for, it's around 22 to 27%.

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Yummy

If you consider 8-10K "very good" for a necro, then I'd have to admit you're a good summoner.

Too bad that's complete crap and people parsing that low are again, either under-geared, under-buffed, or are part of a special olympics team of raiders.

I didn't really have to research you, as your stupid questions are burned into the brain of anyone that perused this forum.

But if you want to claim that Utopi's parses aren't valid for parses, how about this one: http://www.eq2flames.com/necromancer...tml#post858906

If you give the pet 1/2 the spell procs, 100% of melee and chime of blades (even though undead tide was in there), you still don't reach 2.9K for that pet. But since it was in a crap group for procs I'll give you 3-3.5K for the pet on the high end.

I just don't get how you could possibly think a summoner doing less than 7K without thier pet is "very good".

For example, I obviously suck balls, but here's a parse from tonight, without INT line, having upbeat tempo.
Split is kind of weird, becuse I had my pet named after me, but told ACT to change "YOUR" to something else - so undead tide stuff is included with pet.
Me:


Pet + undead tide (about 630 of the DPS):



That puts my pet at 23% of my DPS

So lets pretend my pet, at 3.1K, gets an additional 15% from faster casting/reuse.. Lets also say I didn't get 2.9K from lifeburn (and spent those 3 or 4 seconds doing absolutely nothing)
therefore the pet's extrapolated DPS/TOTAL = 3630/11280 dps

Around 32% given these unrealistic concessions, not 35%.
Guess I should stand there not attacking more often so my pet can catch up.

(yes, I realize 30 seconds parses are bullshit, but there is pretty slim pickings from the parse thred for those who don't read Russian)

Davngr

take a look at scios build it's pretty much dead on what i would have exept for a couple of TSO AA.




in all reality if you're trying to get a build for everything, then it's fine to not take int line but if you're after max dps int line is a must regardless of how useless our pet is compared to conj.