Best AA line up with TSO - Page 5

Jolemai · 04-16-2009, 01:39 PM

Was wondering the same thing. I recall being told that it was worthless in RoK as those who tested it said that it rarely hit anything. Surely it can't be easier on anything in TSO?

Davngr · 04-16-2009, 01:45 PM

the debuff pet is garbage. in the harder fights where you actually want the debuffs it usually dies to dmg shields or aoe since it's too far from the necro to benefit from BP.

Utopi · 04-16-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fisstafury

do you actually ever use void beast pet?

In honesty, I only have ever used it if we were learning a new encounter.

Utopi · 04-16-2009, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Davngr

the debuff pet is garbage. in the harder fights where you actually want the debuffs it usually dies to dmg shields or aoe since it's too far from the necro to benefit from BP.

You would be surprised, with bloodpact, how much survival it has. Of course I am not trying to promote it because, in most cases, it is not worth sacrificing our main pet.

Utopi · 04-16-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sciomar

The times I tried dimensional storage my pet only died when did, so I just never found a need for it. Groups should be more than adequate for maintaining the power and hp needs of bloodpact these days.

Dimensional storage is a very useful especially with some mobs having dot based damage shields or damage shields in general that hit for like 8k. I have found myself in situations where im glad I have it. WTB a cure all for our pet! pst.

Opti · 05-02-2009, 06:05 AM

Why do you go with the re-use of FD instead of the upgrade to the noxious debuff?

Natalie · 05-04-2009, 04:16 PM

Because Fiend Death reuse is very useful. The noxious debuff is nice, but 100% chance of FD every 2 1/2 minutes is very useful and key to being an effective necromancer.

Envile · 06-16-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Natalie

Because Fiend Death reuse is very useful. The noxious debuff is nice, but 100% chance of FD every 2 1/2 minutes is very useful and key to being an effective necromancer.

IMHO, the key to being an effective Necromancer is to put out as much DPS as possible, and to know when to throttle it down and NOT have to Feign Death.

When I am on raids, my first job is to pass out raid-wide hearts. The next step is to target the main mob with my pet, then assist with the adds if any. I am to do as much damage in the shortest amount of time. Feign Death is the antithesis of my primary role.

When I solo, things change. I don't want to do the most damage as I pull aggro from my pet unto me. My casting gets interupted and I die, and/or I FD my pet dies, and I have to get up, re-cast pet, buff, and hope that the situation hasn't chaged much so that I can pull again ... to many variables for me.

Get a respect mirror. Next, find that link to the 'How to spec a necro' doc in the forum here somewhere. Spec your caster pet (spider pre-myth/myth) to do MAXIMUM damage for raiding. Spec your Tank pet (Warrior) to do the maximum taunting, crits, and knock back/stuns possible as you don't want the mob hitting on you, but instead on your Warrior Pet; sorry our rogue pet is a joke and I hardly ever use him, but do in very specific occoasions like in Ravescale where you fight the 5 or the Spider Lady who summons adds every 10% down... found that the caster pet actually awakens mezzed mobs; don't know if that is a bug or feature, but she does. In that encounter, I cast the rogue pet only because he hits faster then the Warrior pet. Once the encounter is over, I re-cast the Myth Spider and get back to business.

No where in my setup do I care about FD. FD represents FAILURE and failure isn't tolerated

Its nice to have, but should not be the focus of our playing style. In EQ1 YES, being able to FD at will over and over again allowed us into places most classes could only wish to have soloed... not anymore.

With the setup I have learned from the necro forums, I can out parse all classes EXCEPT Illys and Scouts when they are played and configured correctly; and in a few cases match or exceed them in DPS.

I am at work so I can't scrape and paste screen shots of my AA setup, but I just copied the one in the Necro TSO AA guide ... and FD isn't part of my setup.

The guide is very nice. Taught me how to /pet melee my caster pet and get a little more DPS. Taught me how to melee the mob myself and get a few hundred more DPS out of the encounter. I'll admit it, I didn't figure it out on my own, but at least I was smart enough to look for better solutions; solutions that actually WORK!

Let me see if I can find the link to the doc...

I looked but can't find it, but it is on here somewhere. I have a copy of it at home, so maybe if no one posts the link, I will post it later this afternoon... but will be busy with GU52, so don't hold yor breath!

Envile

Davngr · 06-16-2009, 03:59 PM

if you're ganking agro alot sure take the FD but i took the cure noxious. 2 more pots to not worry about and a cure nox for my pet if group cure is slow or not available. can't imagine why anyone would take anything else for raiding.

twisty · 06-17-2009, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Davngr

if you're ganking agro alot sure take the FD but i took the cure noxious. 2 more pots to not worry about and a cure nox for my pet if group cure is slow or not available. can't imagine why anyone would take anything else for raiding.

i pot cure arcane. it's faster

between FD & Cure, i'd take FD, altho they're both obviously mediocre AA for raiding. it's not for those times you still aggro on single target - because that just never happens on raid - it's for those times when a 3^ add is beating on you. FD > deaggro. and since waves of adds are continous on several encounters, at times I find wishing FD with even faster recast than 5AA.