Go Back   EQ2Flames Forum > Class Discussion > Necromancers

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-30-2009, 11:40 AM  
Visitor
 
Character: Asslia
Guild: Aftershock
Server: Crushbone

Posts: 50
Photos: (0)

Default Charm breaks

I been trying to solo the heroic quests in CoM at level 77. I charm the spectres and can kill mobs easy, but the hard part is once the charm breaks I get 2 shotted. I know I need more skill ups to prevent this, but is there any quick macros setups or ways to keep both the mobs from coming at me?

And I know I can FD once every 5 min, and I also know I can tinker to get more FD's...
hoke4lif84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2009, 02:02 PM  
Visitor
 
Character: Easiette
Guild: Covenant of the Wolf
Server: Oasis

Posts: 79
Photos: (0)

Default Re: Charm breaks

What helps me is i target the charmed mob and assist it after it is engaged, that way i can see and respond quickly if charm breaks, use plot & root & recharm or if u have pet taunt it will target pet while u recast charm.

But the spell still sux and i rarely put it to use
__________________
Easiette is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-30-2009, 07:13 PM  
Visitor
 
Character: Asslia
Guild: Aftershock
Server: Crushbone

Posts: 50
Photos: (0)

Default Re: Charm breaks

has it ever been pushed to get an after charm effect like coercers get? Lets say have it put a 3 second fear on the mob. That gives us enough time to make sure the mob we are attacking stays on the pet, and can root or fear the other mob long enough to ensure we live.

Just seems dumb to put that much risk on a spell with so few situations to use it in.
hoke4lif84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2009, 12:14 AM  
Mythicals: 4
 
Zianlo's Avatar
 
Character: Cylare
Server: Lucan D'Lere

Posts: 274
Photos: (8)

Send a message via AIM to Zianlo
Default Re: Charm breaks

up your subj, turn down your suck meter, and youre good
__________________
Zianlo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2009, 07:05 AM  
DPS Wannabe
 
SirAmoel's Avatar
 
Character: Agustina
Guild: Conclave of Shadows
Server: Runnyeye

Posts: 313
Photos: (0)

Default Re: Charm breaks

To be honest, I never really used that spell. Had my fun the day I dinged at got it the first time, but it's off my hotbar since.
SirAmoel is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2009, 05:28 PM  
Regular
 
Character: twisty
Server: Befallen

Posts: 108
Photos: (0)

Default Re: Charm breaks

at lvl 77 you're fighting a losing battle in CoM, end of story. you might be able to super-slowly collect the items from golems, but you'll die every 5mins for a net-gain of negative xp. you want to have > 480 Subjugation for your M1 charm to last consistently there for > 15mins. You can get away with about 470 with shaky ~10min results.

that said, charm is the most overpowered spell we have for soloing. with proper setup and practice it'll let you solo such things as all CoM, Fear, Upper Sebilis, Crypt of Agony -2 last guys, etc. without charm many of those would take you unbearably long or even not be possible (like the Frog in Fear).

as to specifically your question of best practices... well, there've been a few posts about somehow getting a hook into ACT voice-alert for when charm breaks - that'd be ideal, but no replies for whether it's possible.

generally speaking, if you're doing anything of interest, you'll be charming mobs that 2 shot you. you don't need to target thru your charmed pet - normal targetting has just as good a chance of saving your ass on a break, in theory:
1. taunt the mob you're killing
2. tab to pet break -> stun -> root -> fear -> re-charm -> r-click cancel fear -> r-click cancel root. fear is important in case your pet decides to range-attack you even being mostly melee. you'll almost always going to eat 1 melee round from melee break pet - the difference for live & die is whether you can lock it down before 2nd round. nothing worse than pet finishing you off from root with a ranged, so don't forget to fear.

the more you charm-solo the more successful you'll become at pulling this off, but there are way too many factors that can and will go wrong. FD is almost always a better default "fuk fuk fuk" option, except probably in Sebilis. if pet not going to 2-shot you, the above is fairly fail-safe.

there are the obvious ways to increase your chances of survival:
1. keep your max distance at all times (gives you max reaction time for break)
2. chose caster pets if have the option (it's easier to resist spells and no 3^ i've seen can 2 shot me with spells)
3. max out stun casting-time improvement for solo spec
4. max out root resist & duration for solo spec
5. max out fear resist for solo spec

not so obvious:
1. shrink your pets (when charm breaks, it grows back to normal size, making it wasier to spot)
2. don't use your taunt and AE knockback unnecessarily - you want to have them available at all times. if your taunt is down when charm breaks, knockback sometimes can save you if you're fast enough to adjust.

hit 80. research and obtain all the +Subj gear. pick ridiculously hard challenges. enjoy the solo power.
twisty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-31-2009, 09:11 PM  
Mythicals: 4
 
Zianlo's Avatar
 
Character: Cylare
Server: Lucan D'Lere

Posts: 274
Photos: (8)

Send a message via AIM to Zianlo
Default Re: Charm breaks

^ what he said > all

Edit: How about a sticky for it? May not be the best guide, but Ill dig through my shit to see what all I got for the subj gear. Maybe...
__________________

Last edited by Zianlo; 03-31-2009 at 09:12 PM.
Zianlo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-01-2009, 08:07 AM  
Visitor
 
Character: Asslia
Guild: Aftershock
Server: Crushbone

Posts: 50
Photos: (0)

Default Re: Charm breaks

thanks for the tips twisty. I managed to pick up master 1 tank pet last night for 130p... seemed like a steal to me since I have yet to see that spell up since I started this toon.

PS hate meter makes life a bit easier...
hoke4lif84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2009, 04:50 AM  
Regular
 
Character: twisty
Server: Befallen

Posts: 108
Photos: (0)

Default Re: Charm breaks

I stopped being lazy. You can setup an ACT trigger for charm break wih this text:

is no longer under the control of a necromancer
twisty is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


Sponsor Ads


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:59 AM.


Design By: Miner Skinz.com Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0
Template-Modifications by TMS