necromaster

Now I'm wondering about gear whether to primarily go towards dpell crit/bonus and yada yada, or all the pet buff procs they are giving us on gear/jewelery now, also I know that there are some awesome pieces that do both.... but I'm wondering which will give out more dps in the end.


We all know the the buffs(provided I listed them all):

Quicksilver Blood - Increases pet combat/spell damage by # and reduce reuse by #%

Empyrean Recovery - Reduces reuse of spells by #%

Empowered Summoner - Increases base spell/combat of pet AND caster by #%

Power Flux - Increases pet spell/combat damage by # and crits by #%

(The only ones I belive I left out where the procs with pet increase to hp, and resists for pure survivability only)

Now as I said... some pieces have spell crit and one of these procs, but I wonder for those, somewhat like myself in the medium range of gear... should we be gearing full into spell crit and grab all of it like candy if we can. OR should we be going for all the pet buffing gear possible? OR is there some sort of mix?


Lastly I guess I should ask just to be absolutely sure... does anyone know if these buffs ever cap out, or stop stacking?... (my personal guess is that there probably isnt a high enough amount of procs/gear with procs for it to ever cap but just wondering.)

Thanks for any feedback.

Lakrohne

In my fledgeling opinion, Quicksilver Blood should not be aimed for. If you have a piece of gear equipped that already has it on it (like some T1-T2 shard stuff), then great; but the damage on it is always small, and because of how many spells the pet has, the reuse is not very useful: only on grim wave, or whatever the 42 second cooldown big drain-dot is. Quicksilver blood has low damage points per roman numeral; Quicksilver Blood III only provides 25 points i believe.

Empyrean recovery seems good because it reduces both pet and caster's reuse time, but I would much prefer an Empyrean Alacrity buff over recovery.

Empowered Summoner is very very good. As far as I know, it's pretty much only on the tier-set shoulder pieces. Unfortunate at best.

Power Flux is the bee's knees, because it gives the most damage points per roman numeral. In addition, the bonus critical is the optimal stat for increasing our DPS. If you had a choice of power flux or any of the above stats on the same slot of gear, you should most definitely choose power flux. The exception is Empowered Summoner because you need spell damage too.



The one that you left out, is called Minion's Resilience. It increases health by 250 and resists by 125 per roman numeral, so Minion's Resilience III is +750HP and 375 resists. I only use any minion's resilience in conjunction with tainted heals when farming for masters in a solo spec.



It's hard to say how much we should focus on gearing our pets, mainly because I just don't know. Personally I aim for getting my pet up to around 600 spell damage/CA, while keeping myself above 800; preferably closer to 900 damage. It's important not to sacrifice your own stats too much, because your pet can die. You don't want to put all your eggs in one basket!



I'd love to hear some other opinions.

Sciomar

Pets are approx 28% of necro dps, if there are some nice pieces of gear that happen to have pet buffs on them, then use them, but do not sacrifice amazing items for something just because it boosts the pet. You are still your greatest source of dps. Keeping personal crit over 80% and spell dmg over 800 is still $$.

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Yummy

If your goal is to maximize DPS then focus on yourself before the pet.

Crit, +Spell/CA damage, casting/reuse cap for them the same way it does for us.
No theoretical limit on number of buffs or +HP/resists, but SoE likes to use arrays without bounds checking and 16 bit signed integers for resists in some places.

twisty

in three easy steps you can answer these questions with precision yourself.

possess pet. examine his spells. calculate BoE cap for all of them.

ACT pet for about 5mins on a bunch of dummies in sequence. tally up spell counts (divide by tick #s for dots). this tells you how much you should weigh your "care factor" for each spell's BoE cap.

you will find that the BoE cap for bottom range of the 2 most cast spells is 400 and 425 or thereabout depending on your pet +base. 650 and 750 top range. these 2 have a significant lead in # of times cast over others.

compare number of each spell cast within 5mins with what it could've been cast, given its recast.

you will find that the top 2 dps spells (damage / cast time) are not max-used because pet logic is not ideal. <INSERT BITCH ABOUT LETTING US PRIORITIZE OUR PET'S CAST ORDER> This makes pet-reuse not very valuable.

power flux 3 is +115 and is good. summoned vengence 3 is +75, and is mostly garbage.

you need a mental guideline for stat equivalency of your stats vs pet stats. there is no such thing as "you should focus on your own stats". you should use gear that is higher in stat equivalency. pet BoE and crit can be divided by 2.5-3x for comparison to personal stats, for example, if you're below both Rot cap and 400 pet BoE.

i can't count to 3

Xalmat

I've parsed it on a Conjuror and I've come to this conclusion:

Everything except Power Flux and Empowered Minion is worthless. Even for a Conjuror since we're much more pet focused than Necromancers. And it is not worth wearing a crappy item even if it happens to have Power Flux on it.

Worry about yourself over your pet. If the gear just happens to have a good pet focus, all the better, but if it's junk for you, don't wear it.

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Taylen

Agreed with Sess.

Being the uber out of the two summonres We aint as pet focused at the conjies.. I mean we have more important jobs like clicking clickies on raids!

I tend ot have a bit of a jumble of all the pet stuff on my necro, most of it being Quicksilver, but most things have that now

Don't always go for "me over pet" tho, as it does help but blue writing on armour/jewelery doesn't always mean good = You first, pet second..you pwn

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Clywd

For soloing heroics and epics the defensive buffs work wonder. Otherwise I also prefer buffing my own dps.

Electri

I have been pondering this question for a long time. Thank you to all that provided information. I have taken a real hard look at my gear and switched out items that duplicated pet buffs. This has helped my dps by adding crit to me. The biggest drawback atm is the mixed T2/T3 gear. I need one more piece to get my 5 piece bonus back. If you want to up your dps, the other item to look at are items that proc. This is where I'm headed next.

Electri Cal'Diva

Xalmat

Duplicate buffs stack. IE if you have 2 Power Flux III's, they will stack with each other.

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