Volga

Hey folks,

Let me start off by saying I love the necro and don't play any other toon. I've only been at this for about 3 months now and I've run into a problem.

My DPS sucks.... badly... While I have 2 specs (mirror) one for General soloing and one for Raiding when I get into groups with my Raid spec I have a hard time parsing over 1300 unless I LifeBurn - and sometimes even with a LifeBurn only 2500 or so.

I suspect that the problem might be gear related, or perhaps casting order and I'm hoping that some more seasoned Necros out there will take a few minutes and look me over and give me some pointers on where I'm going wrong and what I can do to be a better necro.

My EQ2Players Profile (gear): Clicky

All spells are Expert (Ad3) with a couple masters. My Grandmaster is BloodCoil.

My typical casting order:
Send Pet, Soulrot, Blood Coil, Lifetap, Soulrot, Horde or Grave, Soulrot, Lifetap (by this time what ever we're fighting is dead).

If it's a group fight instead of a single target I'll use Pandemic as often as it's up.

My AA Choices for my "Raid" spec focus on the Mage pet.





I'm just about done my Epic and then it'll be a big hurry up and wait for the Mytical. I'm working on finishing my Tier 2 Shard Armor and expect that to be a full set by mid next week.

Does anyone see what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks for your time, and feedback.

Volga / Befallen.

Paikis

Gear and AAs are probably whats killing your parse. Few other tricks you could try though:

1. Macros. Some useful ones:


2. Dumbfires. Cast them on incoming, or not at all.

3. Pandemic: Not just for encounters.

4. AAs (Summoner tree). I use 6-4-4-8-2 in my INT line, STR and WIS are the same as yours. All other points go into STA for hitpoints.

5. AAs (Necromancer EoF). Doesn't really matter how you do it, but get: Bloodpacts, Lifeburn, Enhance: Consumption. Other than that, who cares.

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Davngr

drop WIS till you have more aa and use them for both pet enhancing TSO AA summoner line. matter of fact don't touch wisdom untill you have filled all the other AA trees and have nothing else to spend them on.

Volga

The macros really helped...

Thanks.

Lakrohne

the reason you are parsing so low is because you are casting dumbfires on trash pulls

dumbfires should only be cast on fights that are going to last over 60 seconds, because they totally suck, but their long duration for their short cast time is worth it in the long run.

On quick-dieing trash mobs of all kinds, both solo and encounter, try this spell rotation:

consumption > pandemic > coil > rot > lifetap > rot > pandemic > rot > lifetap

for an encounter, if you're close enough, you can replace some lifetaps with bloodcloud


on bosses, try this one:

consumption > pandemic > coil > bats > rot > blighted horde > rot > pandemic > rot > lifetap > rot > rinse and repeat, don't forget summon undead horde and don't forget to lifeburn when the boss is near dead


it's true, your gear isn't fantastic, but you have some t2 shard gear, and you should be able to break 2000 dps while falling asleep.

You really need to work on obtaining your epic weapon. Your crit is probably low. Try to get your crit as high as you can. Also, you should shoot for around ~900 spell damage.

The AA placement looks pretty solid. I'm not a fan of putting points into undead horde, but to each his own. The other posters are right, you need to grab consumption 5 and bloodpact, so your pet will stay alive until you can get a myth pet.

When you get more AAs into the Necromancer TSO tree, your dps WILL shoot up.

*Hardain*

Why would you use pandemic on single targets more often than rot? Also bats sucks, and if the mob has any kind of AE, dumbfires get oneshotted in no time.

Davngr

i never like to comment on spell rotation since it's the only part of the game that still gives each player the option to add their own twist acording to encounter.

on the other hand i will comment on when or when not to cast lifeburn on name mobs. IF it's a raid named mob that has soul consumption(heals 2% when a player dies) you should actually lifeburn before the mob is bellow 45% HP, so if you die you wont heal the mob for more dmg then lifeburn does.

*Hardain*

Well you can LB at any point tbh, the more often you use it, the more dps you will add. Just gotta watch the aggro if it's early into fight.

Zianlo

First, your AA's are fucked in the necro tree. Like someone else said, get consumption. Drop the undead horde, drop the scout and the dumbfire pet aa's. Personally, I put just enough points in my heals to get down to consumption, because every once in awhile, a heal comes in handy.

With the mythical, you'll get m4 mage pet, so you wont ever use the scout pet, and shouldnt anyways for raids.

For spell order, I usually start off with coil, since it lasts so long. Develope a spell order similar to an Ench, every other spell, go back to the start with Rot. With so many encounters with TSO, I usually go coil, rot, pandemic, rot, lifetap....With a choker, that lifetap heals what Ive used so far for health, so its good.

Gear wise, get a choker. Never take it off. Even in raids where they say dont wear it, say fuck you, because lifetaps will keep you alive with it on. Ive never taken my choker off on any mob since I got it. And why the hell do you have a torch in your charm slot? get a hex doll at the minimum, geez! Also, run VoES for a PG or crucible for that wand thingy. Finish up the sig quest too, gives a nice off hand. 2h staves are not the way to go for better stats or proc stuff.

Forearms and boots are pretty easy to get from t4 set, and run WoE a few times for your t3 set peices. Do some pur's for SoH also if needed to get chance at some masters or hood from master P.

Edit:
Forgot Lifeburn. Make sure your healer knows you are lifeburning before you do it. Give them at least a 5 second count, then cast LB. that gives them roughly 11 seconds or so to switch to you and keep you healed throughout the lifeburn, or else you will go down to 1 hp after 3 or 4 ticks and the majority will be wasted due to not enough hp.

LB also does not generate enough aggro to gank from the tank in raids. Its been nerfed to shit and back again, so cast it asap in a named fight, and if its a longer fight, you might get to cast it again in the same fight. Whenever its up on a named fight, use it as much as possible. Trash fights, dont fuck with it. Takes too long to cast and requires too much attention from your healer for trash mobs that die quickly.

Edit 2
I dont like the macros posted because I q spells up. Maybe is because I got used to perpetuality on my illy, but the abilities/spells in the macros would mess up my cast order tremendously. Rot should be cast every other spell to max out its dps. Personal preference though. Plus, when the zone is laggy like Potao, you get spell lag and it totally fucks macros like those listed.

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twisty

you should be hitting 3.5-4k dps in t1 gear with basically RoK AAs.

horde accounts for big chunk of the suck on fights that last 3 soulrots.

your gear choices are terrible in just about every slot other than cloak and t1 pieces. by this i don't mean, "there are rare drops out there that are better". since you've only been at it for 3months, I don't want to say that you haven't done your homework, but you definitely haven't put in the time to acquire the low-hanging fruit. is your gear adorned? +disruption mount? One thing i am jealous of tho, is you're in a perfect spot to go solo for your own Bloodthirsty Choker and have that accomplishment be really meaningful. Don't get a group for it, go solo for it. imo one of the few defining moments of being a necro in EQ2

even the horde and gear suck taken in account, it'd still not multiply your dps to 3x. my money is on that you hesitate in your rotation. since you've only recently arrived to lvl 80 and grouping, it's understandable. that's really the only explanation i've seen that changes dps drastically, like by factor of 2. you should be able to hit your rotation flawlessly (without any dead time) for 20secs with your eyes closed. if you can't, your dps is getting hit by mental lag nerfbat.

obvious answer to this is practice away the mental lag. subtle, but probably more important, point is resists. since you lack masters and your disruption is very low due to your gear choices, you get a ton of resists. after you've practiced your optimal rotation on a dummy until your eyes bleed, your next task is to be able to get back to your optimal rotation on a resist of any spell in that rotation. and again, the important part is doing so without mental lag; you shouldn't need to think what you'll be casting next if soulrot resists. you shouldn't be scanning your hotbar for available choices, you should know what they are and your finger should already be on the right choice. just carrying on with your rotation as if there was no resist is not the right answer either for optimal dps.

i'll leave you with one practical suggestion, figuring out the detals of the rest is part of the fun of the game, and i wouldn't want to spoil it for you as I wouldn't have wanted it spoiled for me. make Bloodcoil your first in-combat spell on a single-target encounter; gives your group extra 1.5secs to debuff mob