mackgee

Like most, my dumbfire spells have fallen way down on a hotbar I rarely use. I was reading through the GU53 notes, and found this

"Pets will no longer be hit by aoe autoattack unless they are considered in front of the attacker. This should in turn make it easier to position pets to avoid it since the avoidance range for them is now flanking or behind instead of just behind."

If you parse the dumbfires on the training dummy actually can put up some "OK" DPS. So then if in a fight with some descent duration where we can position ourselves to the rear or side of the mob our dumbfires might actually be worth casting again... I guess we'll find out for sure on Sept. 22nd, but I'm actually starting to get a little excited about being able to use my dumbfires again, what do ya'll think???

Sciomar

Dumbfires as we know them are going away and being replaced with a debuff dot spell, that line you quoted is referring to actual pets like the scout/mage/tank. The dumbfires/swarm pets were a joke after the change that made them killable and the retarded dev that thought it would be a good idea to make them that way should drug out into the street and gunned down execution style. ^^

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Illuminator

And if a mob uses dumbfires against a player, will they now have to be cured off?

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Oh shit I just had a memwipe, why is retarded uncle Roger still designing raids for this game again?
Some players might bot against encounters but it seems like he bots the encounter design!

*Hardain*

Does that include UH?

hoke4lif84

I would imagine that would be the case, but mob dumbfires do very little damage in t8... hardly worth a cure unless there is another debuff on the tank.

Zianlo

Why wouldnt it? Horde is a dumbfire pet...

And I second the vote for the dev who decided to kill dumbfire pets needs to be shot execution style as well...

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*Hardain*

Yea it's dumbfire, but it's also a quite huge one. Well it's not, but it's supposed to be. It should be more than a normal debuff + DoT. Guess we'll see soon enough.

Zianlo

a huge one....so...a huge dot and debuff....which would prolly be the summoner version of dispatch they plan on "buffing" us with?

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Sciomar

They never mentioned undead horde directly, the debuffs were talked about being tied into the new spells that will take the place of our dumbfires/swarms. My guess is there will be more tweaking of all our spells so as soon as it starts we'll all need to feedback the hell out of vampirism and undead horde.

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*Hardain*

I wouldn't mind if they buffed Bats a bit too.