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    Default Re: Necro DoV Parse Thread

    I too have been starting to let bloodcoil tick to the end. With casting speed so much higher than my recast in most situations, and casting spells like soulburn into the rotation, I've found I sometimes have enough spells to cast to allow bloodcoil to tick to the end, if I'm also debuffing a mob.

    And my parses started increasing because of it. I think it's because the high cast speed means every spell will get proc effectiveness, you don't have to rely on bloodcoil as much to get quick DoTs. Additionally with potency starting to climb so high through the roof, the later ticks on bloodcoil are starting to hit HARD. Pandemic never was AS horrible an option as people made it out to be...

    The main reason we were casting bloodcoil so much was because it was so proc effective. Maybe that way of thinking is becoming obsolete with these new gear sets...

    Bottom line, I'll only cast bloodcoil over itself now if I am able to get to it EARLY in it's duration...if I am casting over it when it's at it's 6th or 7th tick I'm doing myself a disservice, I've found, when I can simply add on other spells like pandemic.

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    Default Re: Necro DoV Parse Thread

    Umm.... Well, Pandemic's proc effectivenes is decreasing as your cast speed is increasing because it's already capped with 0% cast speed. Also my reuse is higher than my cast speed - even moreso now that I replaced cast speed adorns with crit chance. But... I was experimenting before with letting Bloodcoil tick to the end, I am not afraid to test it out again.

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    the necromancer
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    Default Re: Necro DoV Parse Thread

    I did some testing in the raid yesterday and it seems you get the same DPS regardless of the cast rotation. I let BC tick to the end on every single mob and I got the exact same % of raid's DPS as last week when I recasted BC every time. However... When/if my ability mod goes down a bit or potency/crit bonus go up, I will retest both rotations.

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    Interesting.. i'm a fairly new necro and have been getting really low damage out of bloodcoil as a percentage so far in raids. This is my second velious raid, on monday evening. Dont have any velious raid gear of course yet.. gear has room for improvement.. mostly DoV legendary for crit with a sf t3 leg, shoulder and foot, and assorted jewels.. maybe 50% sf raid ones. Nothing exciting but zonewide from throne of storms raid area.. looking for constructive criticism / advice :P will also test out this bloodcoil tactic later too

    group was really good.. troub, illy, inq, fury, lock
    had synergism, tc and lucidity
    no bolsters or anything on LB and SB etc =(

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    Default Re: Necro DoV Parse Thread

    Are you sure that is zonewide? Because to me it looks more like the parse of the trash up to the 2nd named and the first 2 names (11 minutes and 50 mill total damage).

    Also, are you guys mass pulling the trash? I see Bloodcloud at 2% on your parse, which should not happen with single target encounters.

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    Default Re: Necro DoV Parse Thread

    No we dont mass pull, and yes only a couple of named, so mostly just trash mobs yes, main aim of posting this was to look at flaws in my cast order etc... so you say less bloodclouds more, something else?

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    Default Re: Necro DoV Parse Thread

    Yeah, Bloodcloud is a waste on single target encounters. Anything (apart from swarm pets) is a better choice. What people usually do is rotate BC-SR-LT-SR, with some Bewilderment, Consumption, Soulburn and Lifeburn when appropriate (also Master's Strike might be a good choice). If you want to play around with BC ticking to the end then as a filler you can use Pandeic, Vampire Bats. During VC you can also cast Dooming Darkness because of it's short cast time... And that's about it for necro rotations...

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    Default Re: Necro DoV Parse Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsan View Post
    Are you sure that is zonewide? Because to me it looks more like the parse of the trash up to the 2nd named and the first 2 names (11 minutes and 50 mill total damage).
    thats all we did :smiley-indifferent:
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    Default Re: Necro DoV Parse Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorsan View Post
    Yeah, Bloodcloud is a waste on single target encounters. Anything (apart from swarm pets) is a better choice. What people usually do is rotate BC-SR-LT-SR, with some Bewilderment, Consumption, Soulburn and Lifeburn when appropriate (also Master's Strike might be a good choice). If you want to play around with BC ticking to the end then as a filler you can use Pandeic, Vampire Bats. During VC you can also cast Dooming Darkness because of it's short cast time... And that's about it for necro rotations...
    Yeah thats pretty much all i do... often use master strike only for timewarps, and i try to use bloodcloud on timewarp if theres time too after lifetap + bewilderment, guess its just a gear issue from now

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    Default Re: Necro DoV Parse Thread

    Here is a good 100K+ parse. Now I have one DoV raid loot. Illu/troub as usual


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