Should Alt Guild's be listed on the "Whose Killed What Thread?"

[Elo]

you've been killing mobs that dont give u any upgrades contested wise for months. you never went lax before now if you've changed your position on killing contested in regards to if u need the loot anymore i am sure the rest of the server would like to know that.

it might even breath life into the server you no longer have a reason to kill some mobs esp kos contested. tho that might require you to think of others hope thats not too much for you.

[Ishbu]

Originally Posted by Elo

you've been killing mobs that dont give u any upgrades contested wise for months. you never went lax before now if you've changed your position on killing contested in regards to if u need the loot anymore i am sure the rest of the server would like to know that.

it might even breath life into the server you no longer have a reason to kill some mobs esp kos contested. tho that might require you to think of others hope thats not too much for you.

Thats not true at all. See this game has something called turnover, do you know what that is? It means people often quit the game and we have to recruit new people to fill their spot. Now if we recruited a new person, lets say they are from nektulos, will they have gotten the 1 or 2 pieces of gear they need from the contested? Nope, so now we have reason to kill them.

Sometimes we do kill mobs with no upgrades at all out of sheer boredom, but we certantly dont do it at 3 or 8 am. And think of others and let them have mobs we could be killing when we are bored? God only a fucking moron would say something like that. You know what I think of others in this game? I think I will never meet them, care to meet them, or have any real life interaction with them at all, so who gives a fuck what they do or what they think of me?

[Trumak]

Originally Posted by Elo

you've been killing mobs that dont give u any upgrades contested wise for months. you never went lax before now if you've changed your position on killing contested in regards to if u need the loot anymore i am sure the rest of the server would like to know that.

it might even breath life into the server you no longer have a reason to kill some mobs esp kos contested. tho that might require you to think of others hope thats not too much for you.

Think of others? I do think of others. I think of the 23 other people I raid with and hope they get upgrades. But I sure as fuck don't care of some 4th rate guild kills hurricanus and their tank gets a hate bp. Why would i? I don't play for them I play for my guild and myself.

You realize how fuckin stupid that sounds right? Asking the competition to be like hon, would you mind sharing plz cuz we are incapable of beating you thx.That's like me asking mike tyson if he'll let me knock him out in a fight cuz I need the money. Ain't gonna happen. I am sorry you weren't able to compete with us and had to leave but it doesn't make us bad people, just better players.

[Cafeejid]

These posts are quite contradictory. You say you dont give a fuck about what others think of you and still you are here trying to justify your own actions.

That is hilarious actually

[Izzdar]

If you really didn't care what people thought you wouldn't have been so adiment about your alt guild being listed.


On a side note. Since Leet Sauce gets help clearing zones from Dissolution. Wouldn't it be more of a raid alliance. Examples would be Mayong Mistmore and Sawtooth the Ancient. They worked together to clear the zone. Also i am sure you bring alts from leet Sauce to replace key classes when they aren't present at the raid.


I would normally say no its just dissolution's kill but as you stated leet sauce is its own separate entity. That being said we should take your mutual assistance into concideration. Rather then list leet sauce separately why not list Dissolution/Leetsauce raid alliance.

Reasons they should be a raid alliance.
1) Dissolution and Leet Sauce only help eachother.
-I have never heard of either going into a raid zone and helping a different
guild.
2) The leader of dissolution has stated Leet Sauce is a seperate guild and should be
concidered so.
3) They don't compete for contesteds.
4) They follow the same raid leader.

[Trumak]

The real guild you need to watch the FUCK out for is TRUMAKS TERRORS YOU DUMB WHORE. WE ARE THE REAL REASON CATACLYSM AND TDS LEFT. SOON THE SERVER WILL KNOW THE MEANING OF TERROR YOU STUPID FUCK.

[razieh]

Originally Posted by Izzdar

-I have never heard of either going into a raid zone and helping a different guild.

THE ELDARS + HALLS OF SEEING ENOUGH SAID

[Namai]

What about, in order for a guild to be given kill credit, they have to have killed the mob with only toons in that guild.

Ishbu has said Disso and Leet Sauce are seperate guilds, so treat them as such. If Disso has not killed contested Mayong without 1 or more toons from Leet Sauce, or any other alt guild of theirs, they do not have kill credit for contested Mayong. If Leet Sauce have cleared EH and killed Wuoshi without any toons from other guilds, they deserve credit for it.

[LFG]

Originally Posted by Izzdar

If you really didn't care what people thought you wouldn't have been so adiment about your alt guild being listed.


On a side note. Since Leet Sauce gets help clearing zones from Dissolution. Wouldn't it be more of a raid alliance. Examples would be Mayong Mistmore and Sawtooth the Ancient. They worked together to clear the zone. Also i am sure you bring alts from leet Sauce to replace key classes when they aren't present at the raid.


I would normally say no its just dissolution's kill but as you stated leet sauce is its own separate entity. That being said we should take your mutual assistance into concideration. Rather then list leet sauce separately why not list Dissolution/Leetsauce raid alliance.

Reasons they should be a raid alliance.
1) Dissolution and Leet Sauce only help eachother.
-I have never heard of either going into a raid zone and helping a different
guild.
2) The leader of dissolution has stated Leet Sauce is a seperate guild and should be
concidered so.
3) They don't compete for contesteds.
4) They follow the same raid leader.

I think this is perfectly valid. If I were Deludar, I'd just change all the Disso and Leet Sauce entries to "Dissolution/Leet Sauce Raid Alliance".

[Izzdar]

Ishbu i figured i would use some references to back up my allegations for the dissolution/Leet sauce raid alliance. Also it would be far more convincing to incriminate you with your own words.

Bottom line, your wrong in saying its always disso first and then leet sauce. If that was the case we would be claiming EVERY mob in guild for leet sauce because we have used alts on everything.

Last weekend was an odd weekend for us. Itoock was gone, Morphling was on a deep sea fishing trip, and Kobal had his family in town. Do the math and figure out how many plate tanks that leaves us with.

How did we manage to kill everything still? Because of alts. The fact is there is not one single class that one of our membesr does not have an alt of. Wich key classes do you claim we are missing LFG? Just because we dont force everyone to be in leet sauce that doesnt make the alts of Numa Numa or other guilds any less important, Leet Sauce is just the main base of operations. Notice how we werent posting here for every random guild to get credit, just the ones that are major and instruemental.

What is that if not a raid alliance. 2 separate guilds as you stated many times.

Leet Sauce does kill contested mobs that Dissolution no longer bothers with. Leet Sauce does not follow Disso's raid rules or loot rules or membership rules at all. Leet Sauce operates completely differently than Disso does. That is a fucking fact and your entire post that is quoted above is dead wrong because of it.

You need Leet Sauce as maid apparent in the first to quotes. And they are a separate entity from dissolution which is clearly shown in the second gourp of quotes. Sounds like a raid alliance to me.

Alliance is defined as a merging of efforts or interests by persons, families, states, or organizations.


Sounds like two organisations merging their efforts to complete a common goal to me. Dissolution/Leetsauce raid alliance has a ring to it. Or we could give recognition to other guilds as well. Dissolution/Leet Sauce/ NUMA NUMA/ Ye Drunkin Horde raid alliance sounds good as well.