Ishbu

They certantly are not the same, that is blatantly obvious, yes your insisting on making them the same.

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LFG

Is there anything at all on this site that is profound or life changing?

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Morara

216 pages of it.

http://www.eq2flames.com/showthread.php?t=4086

Cafeejid

Great. This statement end the debate about Leet Sauce being an alt guild or forming an alliance with Disso. You see if those were truly separate guilds, neither would be using the knowlegde about certain encounters the other guild has gathered.

And since the people are the same in each guild, that is an impossibility. Also one really cannot ally with onerself in the true meaning of an alliance.

Thus the issue is resolved, Disso, Leet Sauce & co. are neither an alliance nor separate guilds.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Deludar

I think we have a winner. You claim to have been helped by Leet sauce (a seperate guild) to kill mobs, but then claim to never have asked for help from a seperate guild? Please do explain

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KFizzle

If Leet Sauce and Disso are two different entities, i think these guys have a point. Either Disso, or Leet Sauce or both has cheated with knowledge only able to have been attained from the other! If Leet Sauce firsts something Disso hasnt killed before, then disso kills it later, that to me says that Someone in Leet Sauce passed the strats along! ......... Schizophrenic bastards.

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Izzdar

I am curious what ishbu's response is going to be. I have a feeling it will be some thing along the lines.

1) My guild is better than yours.
2) My thoughts are better than your logic. (Even though it isn't)
3) Something to change the subject (About dissos server firsts or ww firsts)
4) He will go to a different thread and try and let this one float into the background.
5) He will finally agree (not likely he is a child)

Widem

Ok im really am sick of all of this and im hoping to come up with a soulution. I can understand you saying that if 4 or more people from a different guild are there its a raid alliance. With that said...then you cant lump together Disso Leet Numa Black Ye drunk and Poke together for most of those kills b/c as ish had posted previously that alliance had only killed i think it was like 5-7 mobs.

The alliance server 1sted 1 mob...fucking sawtootch the acient...so we could give about 8 people at the time a break b/c they need to do errands on floor 3 and it wasnt imperative. So in the way its currently set up is wrong. Because the alliance didnt kill things like avatar of war and shit like that.

And back to whoever was trying to twist ishbu's word about how then we must get strats from the raid alliance...the only thing we beat with the raid alliance first was saw tooth, and there is absolutely no strat to sawtooth so thats pretty much retarded. I seriously dont understand why everyone is making such a big deal about some of our friends, who cant take part in the normal operation of the guild because of playtimes. They deserve some sort of credit as well.

The way i really see this is that other guilds on the server feel punked that another group of people are running around killing shit...i dont even know why they care b/c any direct competition on this server results in a win for disso and for everything else the alliance can't hurt u in any way shape or form b/c everything is in a goddamn instance. Im sure that if 12 people from stasis and 12 people from Fohf killed instanced mayong for the first time they would put both names up but then if later stasis killed them alone they would be separated.

Its almost not even worth getting these guild names on there anymore, when we first talked about doing it i never had any idea there would be a backlash, much more this kind of response.

Ishbu

Explaining is easy, they volunteered to fill slots, i didnt ask for it, they stepped up to the plate. Doesnt take a genious to see that, but evidentally it was too complicated for you.

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Cafeejid

Like said, it would be an alliance if they were 4 different people from 4 different guilds. As it is, it is like 1 person from 4 different guilds. That is the point. The thing is that this is a sort of scoreboard where each player has one spot, not like they have on some games that you can fill the top10 with your own name just to look cool.

That serves absolutely no purpose and Ishbus insistence has only made it look like an attemp to flame every single raiding guild in this server. The backslash was totally because of his postings. So dont blame others for something they did not start.