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Old 07-31-2007, 01:46 PM  
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you make some good arguements for people viewing. although, most of them are not true. as much as you want to think that i was such a terrible addition to the guild you are wrong. every single night after raids i would talk to people and work out issues they had with other members. the only time there was ever drama was when you polg and hethyr decided to band together. and well if hethyr wasnt happy, polg wouldnt heal, if polg wouldnt heal you wouldnt tank, and we didnt have a replacement tank for anything more then kos zones so that was it, no more raiding.

and yes, i was paying attention, but i cant see shit said about me or others that i'm effecting when they are never made open to me. there was not one person who i didnt talk to in /tell in the guild at least once a week having full convos with them, seeing where they were and how i could help them improve.

even though i couldnt stand hethyr i still tried to encourage her when i found out my comments that were meant to be taken as a joke actually offended her. i sent her a nice mail saying how she was improving and how i was sorry about offending her.

so by you saying that you didnt know hethyr? and polg didnt know hethyr? then what am i supposed to take that as? you just deciede to try and make her happy because you wanted to piss me and "8" others off? and if you both didnt know her why did you form your own little guild when RE broke up? hmmmm

also who the fuck cares what you wanted in your group? you were not the guild leader, though you did your part to drive him crazy. telling a superior officer to do something a way they didnt want to is also not your job as the MT. sorry buddyou are wrong. and in what world would an assassin help you hold aggro better when she was never above me on the parse? especially in group encounters? it may had "felt" better, but it wasnt, you were blind. more dps = more aggro, period, i ecen had taunts that i used to get you more aggro. you are wrong, you didnt hold it better with her, you just wanted to think you did because you had her in your group, hethyr was happier and so was polg
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:49 PM  
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You still don't get it. It's just funny that you had to brag about it everyday. I don't have the slightest clue what you do, because I just don't care what you do. Why would I go look up wtf you do or are studying? I just don't care, man. ATM, you're providing amusement to help pass the time until I get to leave the office. Tomorrow, I'm sure I'll have more amusement.



LOL. I never claimed not to participate in childish flames. I just don't start them. You do understand what trolling is, no? The longer I can keep this alive, the more entertained I am.

I also never said it was just you and Tolemak. I simply repeated the names Oliva stated. If you don't like that Oliva stated your name, then please take that issue up with Oliva.

everyday huh? maybe just seeing me say it a time or 2 to prove that i'm not just some stupid kid made you constently think about it or something? i can think of 2 times when i brought it up. simply because you and the others in /of were trying to poke fun at my youth and inexperience.

but i'm glad this is ammusing you, i'm having a blast also
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:08 PM  
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Actually Sieki in all fucking honesty, I didn't want to be in MT group, I never fucking asked for it. I was put there I did what I was sposed to then I'd get tells from people in your group stating how much you were bashing me in group chat. Fun Fun.



Are you talking about that? yeah that made me giggle cause I knew you were just kissing my ass to shut me up. Yet you still continued to do it.

Oliva about me leaving and coming back, I was asked to come back, motivation behind the asking I can't tell you thats Naif's business. I told him I didn't want to but he kept insisting saying he would fix things. Nothing was fixed so I left yet again. So you people could be happy in your soap opera EQ2 lives.

Sieki, Anca is correct. I was not friends with him nor Polg until the end of all this bullshit. This drama was between me and you and should have been left that way but you couldn't do that. You had to talk behind my back and stir up your whiney princess crap. I had one fucking problem we were investigating what was causing it. But apparently you and Tolemak were too stupid to realize that when it was told to you as that blatantly and bold. We figured out what it was but you had already told Tolemak he was not to listen to anyone but you and he could do what ever the fuck he pleased. Like not buff the tank properly unless you were there.

I knew you didn't like me in fact when I heard you were coming back I was actually going to leave, I was apparently a last resort to begin with so I've heard. But I was asked to stay so I did. Whats funny bout all this is is I never even spoke to you. You just chose to make your dumbass jokes and rag on me. I pretty much nodded and went along until your jokes became really offense and yes I COMPLAINED. Boo fucking hoo.

If you want to know why I didn't like you, it was because you were a conceited snob, and think you are way better than you are and everyone else. Just because you parse high doesn't make you a good player. Good player requires listening and obeying not just topping the fucking parse. Thats all you ever worried or cared about and it was silly.

Anyways I am finished with my cigarette and you, so please shut the fuck up.
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:14 PM  
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Actually Sieki in all fucking honesty, I didn't want to be in MT group, I never fucking asked for it. I was put there I did what I was sposed to then I'd get tells from people in your group stating how much you were bashing me in group chat. Fun Fun.



Are you talking about that? yeah that made me giggle cause I knew you were just kissing my ass to shut me up. Yet you still continued to do it.

Oliva about me leaving and coming back, I was asked to come back, motivation behind the asking I can't tell you thats Naif's business. I told him I didn't want to but he kept insisting saying he would fix things. Nothing was fixed so I left yet again. So you people could be happy in your soap opera EQ2 lives.

Sieki, Anca is correct. I was not friends with him nor Polg until the end of all this bullshit. This drama was between me and you and should have been left that way but you couldn't do that. You had to talk behind my back and stir up your whiney princess crap. I had one fucking problem we were investigating what was causing it. But apparently you and Tolemak were too stupid to realize that when it was told to you as that blatantly and bold. We figured out what it was but you had already told Tolemak he was not to listen to anyone but you and he could do what ever the fuck he pleased. Like not buff the tank properly unless you were there.

I knew you didn't like me in fact when I heard you were coming back I was actually going to leave, I was apparently a last resort to begin with so I've heard. But I was asked to stay so I did. Whats funny bout all this is is I never even spoke to you. You just chose to make your dumbass jokes and rag on me. I pretty much nodded and went along until your jokes became really offense and yes I COMPLAINED. Boo fucking hoo.

If you want to know why I didn't like you, it was because you were a conceited snob, and think you are way better than you are and everyone else. Just because you parse high doesn't make you a good player. Good player requires listening and obeying not just topping the fucking parse. Thats all you ever worried or cared about and it was silly.

Anyways I am finished with my cigarette and you, so please shut the fuck up.
lol yea you are right hethyr, i suck and i'm a horrible person for being a "conceited snob". get the fuck over it. you shouldnt have been invited back into the guild after the first time you got kicked for sucking, but we were in a bind and needed some melee dps so we bit the bullet and offered you a spot back.

but i'm glad you polg and anca formed some kind of bond being the only people in the guild to not like me, boo hoo right? i could care less if you dont like me. you suck. polg is a great healer but he's even more of an arrogant ass then i am, and anca is just a cry baby for more then just the specific reasons i stated before. all in all. you suck. get over it
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:17 PM  
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oh and i'm pretty sure you were only asked to come back because polgaras would only come back if you did. but good point there
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:25 PM  
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Actually the first several times I left Polgaras didn't leave. Both times he left he left before I did, way to pay the fuck attention again buddy.
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:32 PM  
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Actually I got kicked for raiding with another guild and it was a big misunderstanding. I was on a friends account on his character, and it was taken wrongly. tyvm. I don't care if you think I suck, your bashing my skills on a character I did not want to play and is now retired. Its not what you think its what other people think. Let them think for themselves instead of sitting here trying to make people look bad, your making an ass out of yourself too you know. How bout you go back to your happy retirement and then traipse off to Naif's guild leave me my friends and the fucking server alone? Your telling me to go over it but all you can do is draw it out. Like Anca said it was a month ago. We broke up for our drama and our reasons. No one fucking elses. There was no need to make it fucking public. In all actuallity the guild should have been put to rest at the Para Retri split.
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you make some good arguements for people viewing. although, most of them are not true. as much as you want to think that i was such a terrible addition to the guild you are wrong.
I haven't stated anything differently than I have been stating the entire time.

I never said you were a terrible addition to the guild. I just said stop with the comments. You couldn't. Ultimately, you turned out to be a poor addition to the guild as it doesn't even exist now as it did. Everyone's name you see mentioned played a part it in. That includes you, and that includes me. Life goes on.

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every single night after raids i would talk to people and work out issues they had with other members. the only time there was ever drama was when you polg and hethyr decided to band
Isn't it odd that others started developing issues with Hethyr after you "talked" to them and "worked out issues" they had? I find it odd. When these ppl came to me with issues, they said their issue was Hethyr. When asked what their issue is with Hethyr, they said they didn't really have a personal issue with Hethyr, the only problem they had was Sieki or Tolemak didn't get a long with her. This is what your peers told me. Had they mentioned specific problems with Hethyr, you can be assured I would have tried to address them. They didn't.

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together. and well if hethyr wasnt happy, polg wouldnt heal, if polg wouldnt heal you wouldnt tank, and we didnt have a replacement tank for anything more then kos zones so that was it, no more raiding.
Ventrous tanked Freethinkers just fine. Rogueneeko would have done fine had he been given the chance. Saying you didn't have a tank is silly. We were bringing 6 or 7 tanks to each raid.

The reason I wouldn't tank if Polg wouldn't heal is because there were consistently only 2 people actually healing. Polg was one of them. It gets very frustrating very fast to deal with this. It can't continue successfully like that. We had backup tanks to the backup tank. In fact, 5 or 6 of them. What the hell kind of a strat is that? Rezzes are easier than heals?

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and yes, i was paying attention, but i cant see shit said about me or others that i'm effecting when they are never made open to me.
I told you on several occasions about your comments to Hethyr. Polg had told you. Naif had told us that he was going to talk to you about it. You can't really say you weren't told about it.

The not paying attention part, it was obvious from your officer comments during a few raids. Even Naif had things to say about it.

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so by you saying that you didnt know hethyr? and polg didnt know hethyr? then what am i supposed to take that as? you just deciede to try and make her happy because you wanted to piss me and "8" others off? and if you both didnt know her why did you form your own little guild when RE broke up? hmmmm
I didn't try and make anyone happy. Here's someone making derogatory comments about another, which is causing the other person to want to leave guild and not perform well. I tried to get it to stop. Somehow, out of that, a bunch of ppl came up with I was favoring Hethyr, and had some illicit online relationship with her. I didn't even know her real name was Heather. However, the talk and rumors actual had me talking to Hethyr, and through that I now consider her a friend. Polgaras was the same way. He didn't even know her until this stuff started.

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also who the fuck cares what you wanted in your group? you were not the guild leader
I was MT, I control my group. End of story. You don't want me to tank, great, replace me. You want me to tank? Then we're just gonna sit there until I'm happy. I wasn't wrong. Stop being so butthurt about it.

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, though you did your part to drive him crazy. telling a superior officer to do something a way they didnt want to is also not your job as the MT.
Sorry, but the only time I told him to do something was when he was clearly wrong. It was well beyond the point that I had already left the guild anyway. If he couldn't handle it, then he should have replaced me like I asked.

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what world would an assassin help you hold aggro better when she was never above me on the parse?
Do you know what a parse is? When her number is higher than your number, then she did in fact outparse you. She did it quite often in the MT group.

You also don't get it. I didn't need much help at all with multi-target agro. Swashies are great for that. Look at the ragtag OT group we had. No dirge, no coercer. No hate gain at all. What are most adds on fights? They're multi-target. For what we had showing up to raids, you were better in OT group. You keep mentioning what was better for the raid, but so far it's been nothing but whining. How were you better in the MT group when the OT was struggling with multiple targets? Yes, that means it would have been more beneficial to swap you in and out based on the encounters or zone. Sorry, but we needed consistency. To top it off, your drama was the ultimate deciding factor. Naif didn't give a shit what group you were in.

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especially in group encounters? it may had "felt" better, but it wasnt, you were blind. more dps = more aggro, period, i ecen had taunts that i used to get you more aggro. you are wrong, you didnt hold it better with her, you just wanted to think you did because you had her in your group, hethyr was happier and so was polg
/sigh. Try forming an argument rather than whining. The amusement value is quickly dropping. I don't recall having any issues with agro while Hethyr was in MT group.
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:32 PM  
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aw its hard to tell when i had already left the guild because of you him and anca, idiot
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wow.../gets popcorn I got 20 bucks on the skinny fuck with the headphones/mic on and ventrilo blasting in the backround.




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