Gilgame

cuz i can finally use the z key and get away with it until assholes like you show up.

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Exeugi

Yup I am an asshole, deal with it.

Gilgame

nah your not, it was just an expression.

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Exeugi

No really I am.

Exeugi

Meh, I forgive you..even though I am kinda an asshole.

Jalathan

Why to take a paladin...

Depends on what you need really.

They can be a hate sink in the mage group (to allow a warlock to go crazy), they can be a solid OT, we can dps in the right set up (not t1 dps, but still) and they can (contrary to popular belief) actually MT.

Beyond that, you also have the +120 to all heals (which is going to be fixed soon, so it will be 120 to ALL heals, that's right, buhbye normalization!), that will soon be raid wide, so better use of power for your healers. We also have some decent procs that can go great in a scout group (CoD). We can also self ward and intercept on a pull that produces NO agro. Then there are some of the other things we have like pledge of armament (which give what ammounts to an extra piece of armor to the MT or OT) that is now raid wide.

You can go into defensive, sap the agro from a crazy dpser, provide your uncontested avoidance to the MT.

Do I need to go on?

We offer alot if people would simply get out of the mindset that we suck.

Wozamil

It's not that we suck. I don't think people really think that. The problem is that a zerker can tank well and offer the raid more benefit over a paladin. If you've ever seen an amazing zerker OT, you'll realize that we are not that much better. For a zerker to tank, the raid doesn't have to shuffle around people like they do with a pally and their amends target.

I do feel SOE is finally starting to understand the pain crusaders and brawlers are going through and are "attempting" to fix it. Will it be enough, I don't know.

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Jalathan

you'd be suprised the number of people who think we suck Woz... I was one of them once ;)

I think we offer alot, but what we offer is slightly different than what most are used to I think, so it doesn't fit in with alot of the accepted strategies, so people automatically assume if it doesn't fit the strategy or accepted concept, it can't work.

Wozamil

No, it's not that people think we suck. It's that we are a negative impact on the min/maxing of zonewide DPS. Guilds pushing for over 40k DPS on every fight make the extra fat expendable.

Giving us +120 heals does not improve min/maxing raid leaders. Hell, my raid leader is a healer and he'd rather see EH cleared in under 3 hours. Recent changes have not added one bit of raidwide DPS to our class, with the exception of 2h dps increase which is minimal as is.

Look at the changes

56(80 w/AA) Wis
raid wide mit
+120 heal
double intercede
Smite evil hitting pets
lower recast on DJ

How is any of that going to make our contested Mayong fight <5 minutes?

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boli

Because we dress up in a cheerleading outfit and "inspire them" from afar ... outside the zone :P