Thinking about Betraying (what do i have to look forward to and regret) - Page 3

brentiger · 01-23-2008, 04:49 PM

I just made an alt pally a couple days ago and he is level 30 and so far I am loving him. I used to always say I would never make a crusader but here I am leveling one up to 80 lol. I guess the main reason I did it is because I already have a fury, monk, and troub level 70 and up and I wanted a plate class that wasn't a healer. Since he is an alt I eventually intend to tank all the heroic instances. I will do SOD and try to get my hands on the green dragon sheild and the riposte adorns. I already have Sigil of Heroism master waiting to scribe and am looking every day for amends master until I hit 49. So aggro shouldn't be a problem.

Crib92 · 01-23-2008, 05:35 PM

LOL Bren. Didn't you ask me the other night if I had Sigil Master on Whitefang? When you decide to betray just throw it my way. :P

brentiger · 01-23-2008, 05:43 PM

I have no interest in playing Sk. So no Sigil for joo Fanger! Hehehe

Aerofae · 01-24-2008, 01:19 AM

My SK was pally at the start and tbh the biggest difference between the classes is soloability.. yeah ofc pally can kill stuff on soloing but man it's so slow.. not to mention the need to stop and to heal is really make it no fun.. sk's on the other hand got no direct heals but tons of lifetaps.. so basically if sk want to heal himself he just need to do more spells!
I also think that amends is overpowered skill and it's like "easy mode"

Other than that i love playing with pallies when i'm healing with my warden (the only tank i can solo heal in maiden's is pally, with my buffs the pally i played with had 62% avoidance and even guards don't go that high), not to mention that pallies are alot better OT than sk's on most cases.

Anyway not really important just having fun it's what i care about

Steel · 01-24-2008, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Aerofae

My SK was pally at the start and tbh the biggest difference between the classes is soloability.. yeah ofc pally can kill stuff on soloing but man it's so slow.. not to mention the need to stop and to heal is really make it no fun.. sk's on the other hand got no direct heals but tons of lifetaps.. so basically if sk want to heal himself he just need to do more spells!
I also think that amends is overpowered skill and it's like "easy mode"

Other than that i love playing with pallies when i'm healing with my warden (the only tank i can solo heal in maiden's is pally, with my buffs the pally i played with had 62% avoidance and even guards don't go that high), not to mention that pallies are alot better OT than sk's on most cases.

Anyway not really important just having fun it's what i care about

I have heard Amends being labeled as easy mode before, and i have to kinda laugh on that. I have always thought the introduction of Amends/Sigil of Heriosm and now Holy Ground is compensation for the loss of dps/agro we lose when we have to ward/heal in encounters. Sure if you are in a perfect situation you shouldn't have to ward or heal much(not counting preward which every pally should do), but how many out there have had the perfect situation like that? Usually i find myself hitting my ward, or a heal(especially group heal on some slackers that dont build up their resists to AOES) and the Amends and other agro tools allow us to use our skills. If we had the native dps that a buckler specced berserker had we would be less reliant on amends, and if a warrior had it, it would be overpowered for them. I agree that shaowkingts have to work on agro much more and i really wished SOE had thought out the resist rate on tauntover time that shadowknights have, but i hardly call amends with a paladin overpowered...:-)

Tharinor · 01-24-2008, 01:04 PM

Anyone who thinks that amends is overpowered hasn't done a complete side by side comparison of the sub-classes in question, at least not a very good one. Don't forget not being able to taunt while stunned/stifled as a Paladin. :P

Aerofae · 01-24-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tharinor

Anyone who thinks that amends is overpowered hasn't done a complete side by side comparison of the sub-classes in question, at least not a very good one. Don't forget not being able to taunt while stunned/stifled as a Paladin. :P

That's why you should use Deathmarch to avoid stuns :P

TBH i think that it's really stupid that there's 2 classes instead of one.. should be only crusader and sk's should do divine dmg (who said divine is good? divine can be from evil gods isn't it?) and basically merge those classes to one good class instead of 2 limited and flawed classes.

Oizen · 01-24-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerofae

That's why you should use Deathmarch to avoid stuns :P

TBH i think that it's really stupid that there's 2 classes instead of one.. should be only crusader and sk's should do divine dmg (who said divine is good? divine can be from evil gods isn't it?) and basically merge those classes to one good class instead of 2 limited and flawed classes.

ummmm...

HELL NO!

...never merge SKs and Paladins... that is all. ;p

Virutis · 01-24-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Aerofae

That's why you should use Deathmarch to avoid stuns :P

TBH i think that it's really stupid that there's 2 classes instead of one.. should be only crusader and sk's should do divine dmg (who said divine is good? divine can be from evil gods isn't it?) and basically merge those classes to one good class instead of 2 limited and flawed classes.

First off who said we are flawed, you either A. group with shitty fucking crusaders, or B. have no fucking clue...

we are working as intented, our aggro control is fucking godly which is what we are all about, we have the best fucking block in game. great hp, yet we are flawed.....give me a fucking break....

Lastat · 01-24-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Virutis

First off who said we are flawed, you either A. group with shitty fucking crusaders, or B. have no fucking clue...

we are working as intented, our aggro control is fucking godly which is what we are all about, we have the best fucking block in game. great hp, yet we are flawed.....give me a fucking break....

What he said!!