Tharinor

What kind of DPS are people seeing on RoK raids right now? I'm kind of aggravated. All of my DPS related stats appear to be up considerably from EoF/70 as raid MT. Double attack is 17%, haste is about 35ish without temp buffs, DPS mod is 37, +50 spell, +20 CA, ~32% melee crit, ~81% spell crit. However, in offensive stance, in EoF I'd be easily parsing 1k+ on pretty much all single target fights. In RoK, I'm struggling to get over 1k it seems, yet in defensive stance I'm having no problem hitting 900+ most of the time (like, there's no difference at all it seems between offensive and defensive, DPS wise, right now). In offensive in MT group I am hitting around 900 STR and 500 INT.

I'm sure a new weapon instead of Soulfire Gladius will help, but that shouldn't be holding my DPS back right now should it? Thoughts? I'm just a little aggravated right now because a Bezerker in our raid who I had no trouble outparsing in EoF is now outparsing me by a large amount just about every fight.

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Jalathan

He out parsed me pretty easy in MMIS the other night too Thar, though granted, I'm not nearly as well geared as you all are either.

Did you swap out to the WIS line? That might explain why you aren't seeing that much change in defensive. The biggest hit in going defensive isn't the hit to stats, but the hit to your ability to hit. The wis line will counter that a good bit and in offensive, probably push you past the diminishing returns curve so you aren't getting as much benefit from it on the offensive side as you are on the defensive side.

Are you getting resisted alot, AD3s or M1s?

I'm not sure if the mechanic where a weapons effectiveness degrades vs levels is still in or not, I know the armor side is. I think it may be, and if that is the case, using a lvl 70 weapon against lvl 80+ mobs is going to hurt you as well.

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Paladin of Antonia Bayle

Tharinor

I probably need to grab that short sword he's using out of CoA and see how it works for me. Can't find the stats on it now and don't have access to EQ2Players from work to look it up, plus I don't remember the name anyway, hehe.

I'm sure the wis line helps with defensive, I just figured that my DPS would at least be close to what I had in EoF and hopefully a tad higher, but it seems to be lower, if anything.

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Jalathan

Nathar shortsword
+23 STR
+32 STA
+100 Health
+105 Power

Damage 80-452 (DR 88.56)
Delay 6.0
Lvl 79 Legendary

plus it has a taunt proc on it (+600 hate 1.6x a minute)

Yah, I think I need to go farm that zone too now, sure beats the hell out of my Vilucadae's

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Paladin of Antonia Bayle

Artur

if youre going for DPS, what kind of armor ya got?

If ya need too, grab the devout MC stuff, the mit and stuff sucks, but the +315 to both spells and CAS might do wonders for ya.

Jalathan

he's a MT, Artur He needs his mitigation, he just need to DPS to hold agro (or help hold it anyways).

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Paladin of Antonia Bayle

boli

I found my DPS has increase considerablly since EoF mainly its down to group make up and me actually getting a few buffs but 2k+ whilst MTing or 2.5k OTing is pretty much my norm right now... not the best but a few things I have seen happen in RoK compared to EoF

1. My % hit ratio has gone up... it used to be 76% or something now its closer to 96%
2. I've gotten about +10% more melee crit than before
3. I generally I have ~ 20% DA
4. I've pestered and finally recived +DPS and +haste buffs beyond that which I can buff myself so my dps is often 120 ish and my haste 80-120

In short.. I've concetrated more on the melee side of things making myself hit harder and faster and more accurate between my nukes Autoattack for me now counts for nearly HALF my dps with a 2hander and ~ 1/3 with a 1 hander.

As for the above shortsword I've found that the gladius has near identical dps from it unless our haste is over 100; which self buffed never happens and rarely happens in a standard tanking group (unless you snag an illusionist)

Oh.. and one last word... don;t underestimate the STR line.

Tharinor

I'm mainly just looking for DPS. Aggro control isn't the issue right now (but could be if everyone starts improving their DPS but me). Our DPS doesn't seem to be as high overall as it needs to be right now and I'm pretty sure mine isn't where it should be.

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Steel

I have that weapon as my dps one hander with a phantom adorn on it, it hits like a truck for a legendary one hander and the taunt proc is nice, especially in proc increaser groups. I switch between the superior avoidance heavy soulfire gladius and the shortsword for large dps damage. On a properly debuffed mob for me in raids, there is very little difference between the crit damage coming from the shortsword versus smite evil and crit on bow shot from the ancient sarnak bow from halls of seeing. Some of my guildees were saying i was pulling agro from the taunt effect of the sword, but to me it is the large increase in damage on the sword more than a 1.8 times native 600 taunt proc...:-)

On the Soulfire Gladius i have the 3% reposte adorn on it, it still hits decently on 80 plus mobs and the proc seems to constantly proc. Now i just need to find a good 1 hander/ 2hander crushers and piercers off the names, instead of the loads of scout/mage gear that has been dropping lately...:-)

Tharinor

I'm already planning on trying it (STR line) out in Protector's Realm and in Thuuga later this week. Will see how it goes. Back in the 100 AA days I tried it and it didn't seem to make much of a difference in DPS at the time, but that was back using a crappy weapon, only 100AA, etc.

Of course, I guess I should take my parses with a grain of salt. I'm dying a lot more than I'd like to be right now. A few of the skeletons in Thuuga had a tendency to spike damage kill me on the pull when Divine Aura wasn't up.

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