Madb

Ok, guys this is gonna be my opinion and may not be accurate but I'm giving it my best educated guess. Our Fabled version of our Epic weapon in it's current state will benefit us +215 spell damage for 15 seconds if my math is right with using my current self buffed Wisdom of 615 (.35x615=215). now this is shitty cause we all want more avoidance or mit cause most of us are offtanks since it only makes sense with our great a/e agro control. Let me point out something with a bit of assumption, our current crop of crappy effect layden VP gear and other instance loot gives us a bit if +spell damage, I am assuming there is a cap on +spell damage and I am assuming we are getting fucked to put it bluntly... not to mention healing is primarily used for soloing, so boosting healing is pointless.

Feel free to rant, prove me right or prove me wrong, i just think this really needs to be considered by someone with more knowledge of the game mechanics then me.

Valoron

The epic is a piece of shit. If the next version boosts the current effect on it, it's still a piece of shit. It needs a completely different effect to be worthwhile.

Gunthar

The exidous is going to start. Crusaders are FUCKED. That is the biggest joke of a weapon for that class. The guy on that project responsible should be fired. If this thing isn't redone in a few weeks I expect to see very few high end pallys.

Puggz

I fully agree that this so called "epic" is a complete slap in the face and a downright embarrassment to us. As it appears to me the proc doesn't even follow the game mechanics. The proc states it's applied to +wis which doesn't have any real effect on spell damage to begin with as I understand it. It's difficult to believe that this weapon was designed even in part by the same person or team that did the SK version. Unless this truly is the official word from the designers regarding the intended role of paladins. It would seem that the developer's reply regarding the dreadscale greaves may only be the beginning. While I have seen others that I would consider to have varying degrees of usefulness I have seen no other epic weapon listed yet that is as useless to the specific class it was designed for.

Fidelus

This hybrid class mentality of itemization for paladins is bullshit. We aren't mages or healers. We are tanks with a bag of tricks. Give us new tricks or make us better tanks. I honestly think that the role of paladins has been defined more by the prolific and vocal players of the class than by the developers of the game. Devs need to catch up and pay attention.

Hopefull the raid version will have a completely different proc. I doubt it though.

Spell Damage is the suck for us, for two reasons. First because we don't really want any more spell damage as the feature on our Epic. Second, you can get plenty of spell damage off other items and adorns so that yes, we do get into a cap area, and it's useless.

Healing + lol. No paladin wants that. I could have +45 heal on my gloves, no thanks 16 agility is more useful. Our ward is good when pulling, heals and cure AA great but they are situational. We have the basics, and they are fine no one is going to be a better paladin with + heal amount.

This weapon does not play to our strengths, nor does it give us anything new. The only decent thing about it is the 3% crit and +5 slash lol. Many peeps won't even use this.

Gilgame

The Epic is pretty much the saddest weapon ive ever seen. if i wanted more dps, id go with a 2 hander, if i wanted more defense, id use the soulfire.

the proc is the biggest pile of bullshit ive seen to date. telling us to bolster a worthless stat for an infrequently procing and overall ineffective effect. like i said, your either tanking or DPSing, with this weapon, you can do neither better than with another more easily attainable weapons. such as soulfire, nathsar shortsword and spine of the scorpikis.

the only thing sadder than the effect itself is the weapon's ratio and stats. an item tailored to the needs and strengths of the class? LOL.

not a one paladin is going to be happy about this epic. if anyone is, they are retarded.

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Crackjack

When i saw the SK epic i was really scared we would get a crap like them ...
This morning i woke up and check the wiki and see it is even worse .... how can soe create such a piece of shit, it's worthless whatever your role is...

Gilgame

the SK weapon is actually pretty decent. it helps them tank and it helps them do more dps.

the paladin epic weapon just sucks, relying on a proc to take effect and just being a pitiful weapon overall compared to any weapon you probably already have.

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Abel

Appearance wise our epic just look like a tip of a spear not so great in artwork for a weapon but its ok I can live with that. Now looking at the effect on it WTFWTF#^Q%^&*&Q^&QW^&*@$^Q whoever design this effect needs to look at the class again. This is probably one of the worse effect for the paladin class.

Before ROK was out you wanted us to raise Str/Int to up our DPS so we did that and gear up our character up with Str/Int gear/jewelery. Here comes along ROk and you give us a weapon that has a 9% chance proc when casting spell to get an effect that last for 15 sec which increase our heal/spell damage up to 35% damage of our total wisdom. Did you even test it out to see how much this is gonna proc base on how much offensive spells we have and their recast time? Is this proc thought up so that you can tell us here this is a proc that will make a good combo with the ROK VP gear that has wisdom coming out of its ass which we do not want. Paladin ROK VP set gear is crap and this epic weapon is crap. This damn whole expansion is and I'm sorry to say this but a failure.

Right now I got this weapon and its in my bag. There are 2 weapon that I currently use which is Ekron's Blade and Soulfire for tanking. Give me a good reason why I should use this piece of crap over those 2.

We were told that our epic would last us until the next expansion and probably the one after that. I'm afraid it wouldn't make it in this expansion to start off with.

Seomon

This thing is a joke. 443 WIS self-buffed (+155 spell/heal) is crap. I don't use +heal stuff. There's a reason no paladin wears that stuff. So that leaves +155 spell as the buff, for 15 sec every min. Now, this also has to proc off a spell (read: LET'S MAKE THE PROC EVEN MORE USELESS), so that leaves us with half of our arts will proc it, the other half won't. So I'll just switch it out with the Staff of Nihilism (2 spell crit and +110 spell dmg) and actually be better off.

Thank you, whoever developed this. You showed us how much you don't know about the Paladin class.

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