Oizen

I too will very likely not be bothered to try to get a MYTHICAL upgrade until level caps trivialize it but, by then it will be much too late for opinions to make a difference and our unfocused itemization will have continued.

Videogames certainly do not change the world and the issues that hinder our class (or gameplay) are simply more challenges for us to triumphantly overcome in our casual free time away from the really-real world.... but think about this...

Right now, there are legitimate concerns that can ignite a larger focus on the future of this class. There will not be a better time step up and cease the moment to make a difference and be heard. This is a pivotal time for Paladin players and our community has more input about the product then we might think.

You could make a difference and change the world for your brethren... even if it is just Norrath.

Even if it's just one little stat on digital phats that will be upgraded in the next expansion of a videogame. This is truly a personal accomplishment worthy of the energy. One minor change could invigorate a community of thousands. I know full well that this is only our hobby but, a person's passions are focused through their hobbies. Granted, this videogame is a silly waste of time but, it is honestly how WE, who play, choose to waste our time.

The Paladin community of EQ2 feels that direction with their class is being neglected. They admirably defend the class against stigmas. Each of us has an opportunity to make a difference right now. Five minutes of typing and your support of "the good fight" will be immortalized for all time in these threads.

(well at least until folks stop playing this silly game... at least you can be the interweb hero for the day. /thumbs-up)

RHETORICAL AND USELESS WARNING FOR RETARDS WITH NO READING COMPREHENSION ANYWAY: Your tardness, hostility, and boobery is also immortalized. gg

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Kahling

I dont want an epic to fix a spell that is broken and out of date for T8 raids, that spell just needs fixing full stop.

Perenti

Since 90% of Pally's will be using the fabled until the next expansion we should be including the Fabled as well in the revamp.

I support +5 Block on Fabled and +7 block on Mythical, any plusses on dam/heals (if we have them at all) should be immune to caps eg a % increase to max effect for instance.

The Avenger appears to be of low use but we need to see the figures on it, I would rather have a DA effect on it atm.

We can judge SOE by what they do rather than what they say, although they havent said anything much yet, which says something in itself

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Oizen

I'd agree. Not "saying" is "doing" but, what are they doing?
I'll tell you one thing. We are not being ignored. Decision makers ARE reading.

Artur

I dunno, when I look at this from afar it doesn't seem to bad. the 10+10 means we're literally mitigating an extra what? 20% damage? so thats not bad at all. Avenger? sounds cool but we really need to know just how much it drains. the ability scores however make me sick. yeah I'd LOVE a +5 block, but whats better? -20% damage from what we are dealt AFTER our mitigation? or an extra 5% block? which really just equates to about a 6% mitigation of damage with the block. also what does the +10 % defense really mitigate in comparison. im trying to equate the buffs on the other shields to ours and it seems that 20% damage mitigation trumps many if not all of em combined.

I do however hate how gimped we are on stats and how the other tanks get way more STR and STA and HEALTH then we do. that aint right.

Cyrdemac

Actually its a 10% damage reduce, not 20%. The 10% heal is applied AFTER getting hit and heals the amount of 10% then. I don't say its bad, but its a hit that we get in the FIRST place, so I would never count it to the damage reduction. Damage Reduction should count everything that prevents us getting damage in the first place. Everything else is just afterward-healing.

Also I still favor a block bonus instead this +100 CA damage because we need our block to compensate the missing shortbuffs from the Guardian class. A +5 block to equal the SoD weapon would be a good step to enhance this weapon, maybe even +7 block on the mythical to be in line with the higher Tier of the weapon itself. Never forget that this weapon is being designed for raiding Paladins and so far I havent met many non-tanking Paladins on raids.
Another good idea would have been the removing of the 50% hook from our endline Stamina ability or make it insta cast (dunno how many times I activated it and died during casting..).
Also I read of a suggested proc on blocking an incoming attack to increase the blockrate for a short time. Such a thing sounds to be in line with our blocking mastery form EoF lines and would make Paladins the Master of Block and giving them an own place with own abilities beside the Guardian class, wich I also would favour. Paladins aren't Guardians, and I admit they have a bit better chance on tanking (with equal good players behind that class) than Paladins, but that gap has shortened through the last expansion and I wouldn't like to see it widened again due to misunderstood design of Paladin items.

nyia

kk 2 things the weapon is just fine and all the whining will just cause a massive nerf and no one will be happy. On the heals for pally well truthfully healing for a pally should come as naturally as taunting for a guardian. I see all this +50 to heal and spell dmg well it say +50 % of wisdom to heal and spell dmg and i know that is a large amount for my pally so i don't know why all the complaints about that are from, and in response to the shield thing get a better shield. The truth is we are pallys and comparing ourselves to guardians is a damm shame we tank differently from them and if your basing your tanking to a guardian is not the way to go. I see nothing wrong with either weapon the fabled or the mythical and i think it will better my pally. The other problem is a pally can be utilized in so many ways that soe would have a hard time giving it the tools that can be used every way well i commend them for that great effort. and to all the whinnners

Mahgnus

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Tharinor

That's got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard anyone say.

nyia

Well to someone who does not realize that a pally can heal and doesn't do it on a regular basis isn't utilizing all the classes potential. For you guys to say shut up in not so many words obviously you need to do some retraining so what i suggest is delete your toons unload the game go to the store buy a new game and start over.