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Old 06-19-2008, 01:48 PM  
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Default Divine Favor Upgrade?

Is there an upgrade to divine favor (lvl 58 death save)? I cannot seem to find one on broker or in the compiled spell list of paladins, but I would think it should be upgraded considering the heal amount is a flat 1400HP.

IMO this should either have an upgrade or be changed to a % hp heal.
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Old 06-19-2008, 02:31 PM  
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No there is not, it is an ancient Teachings, it is one of the biggest complaint spells for paladins.
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Old 06-19-2008, 03:12 PM  
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The spell is actually pretty useful. most mobs have quite a bit of a delay between attacks and usually it is the last one in a string that kills you. if you have this deathsave up (which lasts an entire 3 minutes btw), you wont die (obviously) and will also be able to tell people when you do die.

the duration of the deathsave are what make it so good. while healer deathsaves last only about 18 seconds, the paladin one can go up at any time, even while running.

i encourage you to use it more often, even randomly in a position where you might die. you'll be surprised with its usefulness.
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The spell is actually pretty useful. most mobs have quite a bit of a delay between attacks and usually it is the last one in a string that kills you. if you have this deathsave up (which lasts an entire 3 minutes btw), you wont die (obviously) and will also be able to tell people when you do die.

the duration of the deathsave are what make it so good. while healer deathsaves last only about 18 seconds, the paladin one can go up at any time, even while running.

i encourage you to use it more often, even randomly in a position where you might die. you'll be surprised with its usefulness.
Wow thank you alot. I fully support this statement.
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I agree that it would be useful, but I dont understand why it wasnt upgraded in t8. Ancient teachings that are not % based were in general all upgraded in t8, this one should be no exception since the heal amount of 1400 is simply unacceptable in t8.
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tbh it really doesnt need an upgrade. the only upgrade it could possibly give is a bit more hp, and im talking like a couple thousand, i have divine favor at adept 1, i didnt even get the adept 3 and i still enjoy it, i personally think its more useful than DA in raids.
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The spell does work, but It pales in comparison to the zerker version Visions of Madness, which is a perma buff. I have no idea why there is a 12 second daze/stifle on ours and my expierence with the spell shows that it fails to trigger a lot.

Something useful to it would be a few second stoneskinin addition to it's current state, like maybe 3-5 seconds, just enough for the healers to get a heal or two in.
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The spell sucks dick....
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The spell sucks dick....
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Wow thank you alot. I fully support this statement.
I found a nearly identical dislike for this pos as Biker. The few times I was REALLY counting on in, either we wiped because the OT was thumbing his ass in a daze of amazement at how crappy his death save was when the MT still got chewed or the OT was wonderin why the fuck press the button if it isn't going to be 100% successful to even fire... maybe it did fire but just sucked nads?...

...hmmm... Instead I should have cast DA or, Sigil or, Ward or... Squire... yea Squire is a much better emergency save and SoE will fix it the instant anyone complains. Heck Squire has had what 71 patches since the issues with DF were discovered so... I guess we actually did get an upgrade on our emergency save. At least the raid won't take the fail to hard and /ragelog if it gets a chuckle out of my Fanboi cheering us on from the stands.

OH CRAP!!! MT is going down!?!
/squire/squire/squire ftw!!!

(I'll admit it's not thaaaaat baaaaad but still, it's been demoted to the fluff hotbar for most Pallys for years...)

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Old 06-22-2008, 05:41 AM  
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Never use it, when I have tried it does not work terrible well.

Normally face down in the dirt before it has kicked in.

It requires precognition to use it, oh the main tank is going to die in 3 secs therefore i will be about to die in 10 secs so in 5 secs i better click this little ole button here ..............oh i am dead.
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