Vainamoinen

With your gear, RE2 shouldn't be that much of a problem - nerfed SotGD or otherwise.

Again, its a shitty nerf, but if the shield makes that much of a difference to you, I think you're doing something wrong.

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Tharinor

It's a 5% loss in uncontested avoidance. That's a big deal. 5% extra block was the difference in our Guardian spiking on Druushk and being stable, for what it's worth.

Cyrdemac

It's the spike damage. Always a problem of avoidance based tanks, spikes come quick and sometimes deadly. As we have no short buffs that help us surviving those.
Incoming hits from the bosses (were the problems occured) were between 4k and 12k-DA) so you drop pretty fast down the hitpoint bar. You DO feel the missing block, literally.
We repeated this run yesterday, went a bit better, healers healed me like a wizard tank, but worked. Except final boss, he wiped me serveral times..incoming spikes were really hard

Those are just instance-mobs, don't know how raiding will become then. Maybe we can compensate it with mor healpower, I don't know.

Vainamoinen

I thinks its been calculated as 3.2% loss somewhere. 2% for non-pallies.

Again, its is a significant loss, but the shield was OP'ed and that cannot be denied. Is it justifiable that it took nine months to nerf it? I think that's dumb, but what are you gonna do? We bitched and moaned incessantly about the mythical and look what that got us. I'm assuming a similar concerted effort with regards to the SotGD would net us a +spell damage blue bonus on it.

I deal with the spike damage in RE2, mainly because geared the way I am I have to.

So ya, it sucks. VP spikes will be nearly impossible to survive. But that doesn't warrant having a ridiculously awesome shield drop off of a x2 in KJ. It warrants buffing the VP shield drops or adding in some better shield drops VP and below.

My biggest concern with the state of the pally class is the lack of originality with respect to gear and bonuses. Slap WIS and INT and +spell damage and suddenly its an awesome Crusader item! Fuck that shit.

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Tharinor

Soon as I get in I'll let you know how big of a difference it is. I was at 30.8% before the nerf. My original calculations put it at 5% loss for us and 4% for everyone else ignoring other shield effectiveness bonuses. But I could have been off. Even 3% however is noticable.

You'll have to have the warrior cloak from RE2 or the Demonguard BP now just to make up for the lost avoidance, and I haven't had any luck in getting either of them.

At least the Demonguard BP is on smart loot now.

Tharinor

Total loss of 3.6% block.

Guardian friend who has Enduring Wall said he has about .6% more block from Enduring Wall now, both are adorned with 1% block. This should mean that the SoH shield has slightly more block than SothGD and Enduring Wall both.

Fidelus

SoH is gonna be it for us pre-Trak shield I think. Whose judgment isn't blurred by a little more health anyways Pretty glad they nerfed SotGD

Tharinor

Scratch that...it would appear that SotGD still has more block than Righteous Barrier of Devotion. I just wasted 25 RP. :/

Cyrdemac

Thats because oft the +3% uncontested block on the SotGD. It has 1400ish protection on Level 77 agains 1594? from the Barrier at Level 80. The +3% makes the legendary still a better block shield...

At least the block range is now close enough to switch without feeling too much difference like before.

boli

If you really care about block there are crusader only forearms in RE:2 that increase shield protection by 5%.

Sure this nerf is gonan sting us but in all honesty I've been tanking RE:2 with a twohander more than a shield these days. Its all about the uncontested avoid adornments/effects on the other gear right now I think.

I just wish that damn RE:2 fighter cloak will drop :/