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Old 11-06-2008, 07:09 PM  
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No doubt Onra is a good paladin. Thats not what i'm saying. And i would expect aoe's to be higher up on the parse. And as Stone said, this parse wouldn't be possible with any other weapon. The only thing i was look at were the actualy dps amounts of some of his other abilities. These should be pretty static in 90% of all parses. I'm not trying to discredit his parse or anything like that, i was attempting to just give helpful feedback, which is the entire point of this thread. Again nice parse, just offering feedback onra.
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Mutagenic Burst is the proc from the BP and the Belt from Runny Eye 2.......
I know the proc, I have both items. I'm just curious which/why you're wearing those on a Trak fight.
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Onra, don't take this the wrong way, but your numbers are low imo. Yea your overall parse rapes little children, but your ca spell numbers are a bit low imo. Just a thought and trying to improve the paladin community. But then again, if i could pretty much just auto attack 9k dps, why the fuck would i cast anything else lul.

Edited: Also, i'll post some of my parses when i get back to game. Having alot of real life stuff that is way more important.
Obviously, I find it better to use my spells and CA's the way I do. Which is to proc things and not for dps. I get more overall DPS casting my spells in a perfect order (of which I have every spell timed down to the second).

I have tested this extensively, but thank you for your input.

PS: Just auto attacking will net you very low dps.
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I know the proc, I have both items. I'm just curious which/why you're wearing those on a Trak fight.
I was only using the belt for that parse....
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Obviously, I find it better to use my spells and CA's the way I do. Which is to proc things and not for dps. I get more overall DPS casting my spells in a perfect order (of which I have every spell timed down to the second).

I have tested this extensively, but thank you for your input.

PS: Just auto attacking will net you very low dps.
I would guess you were using Trample also ?
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PS: Just auto attacking will net you very low dps.
LOL. Just autoattacking with that weapon netted you 7k+ Extended DPS, not counting procs. That's more than a lot of competent Paladins do without that weapon and doing a lot more than just autoattacking.

Will be interesting to see how your axe stacks up vs sword and board mythical with the new AAs in TSO. That one AA to up sword and board DPS looks pretty awesome for autoattack DPS. There are of course other things nice about that axe, but I'd still like to see some comparitive parses. Will be nice to generate better 1H DPS while retaining the ability to block.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:07 AM  
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Obviously, I find it better to use my spells and CA's the way I do. Which is to proc things and not for dps. I get more overall DPS casting my spells in a perfect order (of which I have every spell timed down to the second).

I have tested this extensively, but thank you for your input.

PS: Just auto attacking will net you very low dps.
I actually had assumed you used your ca's/spells to proc shit over anything else just looking at the swings of some things vs others. Lol i also didn't mean to 'offend' you or anything, i just wanted to do my part in helping your parse make descent assassins cry since disco of that axe
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LOL. Just autoattacking with that weapon netted you 7k+ Extended DPS, not counting procs. That's more than a lot of competent Paladins do without that weapon and doing a lot more than just autoattacking.

Will be interesting to see how your axe stacks up vs sword and board mythical with the new AAs in TSO. That one AA to up sword and board DPS looks pretty awesome for autoattack DPS. There are of course other things nice about that axe, but I'd still like to see some comparitive parses. Will be nice to generate better 1H DPS while retaining the ability to block.
That axe will always out parse s&b on multiple mobs at least with the current increase to our 1 hand dps based on beta testing.
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Old 11-07-2008, 07:22 PM  
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LOL. Just autoattacking with that weapon netted you 7k+ Extended DPS, not counting procs. That's more than a lot of competent Paladins do without that weapon and doing a lot more than just autoattacking.
That is incorrect. Using abilities wisely is what got 7k auto attack. Maintaining Insomniatic Rage and Fever of War brings it to 7k. Pure Auto attack would be far lower.
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That is incorrect. Using abilities wisely is what got 7k auto attack. Maintaining Insomniatic Rage and Fever of War brings it to 7k. Pure Auto attack would be far lower.
True, but IIRC "on a successful attack" is what - melee, ranged, and CAs only right? And from your posted stats earlier, I figured you wouldn't need Insomniatic Rage since you were more than capping everything. I wasn't paying close enough attention to your stats post, but realize now those were post-proc. Was thinking you were posting pre-proc badass stats. Those are a little less overwhelming now considering.

The other point I want to bring up, I've heard about proc mechanics being changed but stopped looking at Beta shit about 2 weeks ago and never paid a lot of attention to anything proc related before that. Is the Axe being affected? Does anyone else have the Axe in Beta to test?


And Daimyo, I was thinking more along the lines of sword and board with single target encounters vs that weapon. That weapon should have outparsed mythicals vs single target pre-TSO, but I would wonder if it would do the same vs single target. I understand the frontal % proc'd and static, are a huge part of what generates the huge numbers in Onra's parse, but that axe is pretty stout against single targets too, the effect just isn't exacerbated by the AE frontal.
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