Taunt Spam Macro

Oizen · 02-18-2009, 03:55 PM

With proposed changes I saw a Guardian make a very interesting discovery on the official boards in this thread. In case SoE decides he's exploiting and convieniently nukes the thread, I've decided to give you the cliff notes:

In the new system if you are attempting to maximize TPS there is no point in timing taunts around melee swings anymore. You should find the most efficient casting order for taunts and create a single macro to insure you are keeping the best one perma-spammed.

Essentially he says, tanking will become pressing a single button repeatedly to achieve 100% effecientcy.

Thoughts?...

boli · 02-18-2009, 06:38 PM

too much.. just add, ipede or exoriation before your most used spells/CAs.

Oizen · 02-18-2009, 10:05 PM

Granted but what do you think of his compelling case that meleeing shouldn't get in the way of recasting a taunt or CA if you are trying to maximize your aggro potential for the Guardian class. Could this be the case for Paladins in Defensive stance, as well?

According to this guy's data, there is no reason to time your button mashing around melee swings while tanking and one macro would insure the proper queuing of the most TPS producing button available at the time (taunt or CA). I think what he is getting at is:

The future of tankers is spamming a single button and letting the DPSers go balls to achieve the most efficient total raidwide(possibly groupwide) DPS.

It got my attention.

Faelgalad · 02-18-2009, 10:56 PM

With our single Taunt coming up arround under 5 seconds recast and extreme fast casting time...
I thought about putting it in Macro with all my other abilities, so that I don't have to click ist 12x a minute.
Since Autoattack Timing is becoming a secondary priority.

NANEEJE · 02-19-2009, 10:19 AM

The point i see that the guardian made is quite clear to me.
Instead of looking at the screen at our taunts, and let's see if i got this right in the order here,
EXCORIATION
FAITHFUL CRY
CLARION
SNEERING ASSAULT
DECREE
SHIELD BASH

Problem is by spamming this, you are using your blue's green's in there, but ... this is my plan.
Now that you bring it up, I am going to macro in one button
FAITHFUL CRY, SNEERING ASSAULT, CLARION,

Since i pull with faithful cry, nothing wrong with it casting clarion in there.
This may not work, but i am going to try it and see how it works. saves 2 spots on hot bar as well

I see the point the OP is making, just cast the macro and the next "available" taunt will go off, so cast this button in conjunction with CA's after autl attacks. This may be a good way to go. I have faithful cry, then sneering assault, then clarion on my hot bar in a row. (i may not like it due to when it will cast faithful cry... if i m chain pulling, it may fire at 5% on a mob and not be ready for the next one).
It will take some playing around.

Kiljoi · 02-19-2009, 03:42 PM

this might be sufficient for a guard mt or on a single target encounter, however as a paladin macroing everything like that will put me in less control of my character imo.

I think that macro makes a point that certain elements are lost in gameplay with the changes, like trying to make the most of your autoattack by not delaying it which increases dps and therefore (under the current system) aids in holding agro efficiently.

However, I would never rely on macros such as that one. I hold off using certain ability for certain moments in the fight and dynamic situations where things can change at a moments notice.

However, I can see macroing clarion to ca but still not really my style, not that I wanna rage click thru each encounter... I mean wtf am I gonna do about tell hell while I tank w/o amends (long overdramatic sigh lol). I just like to have the most control at any given time over my toon and his abilities. To each their own.

Jeal · 02-19-2009, 09:43 PM

i agree with kiljoi.. a macro such as this takes away from the skill portion of the game.. and really makes you weaker.. you can accomplish more in this game by manually doing things faster and better than a scripted key click

Zianlo · 02-20-2009, 03:47 AM

So like....with what Jeal said and others may have said, it takes away the skill portion...but who cares about skill when any n00b can come in and macro that holding aggro just as good as someone else who doesnt use the macro?

I mean, its kinda like cooking a burger. You got the people who will do it the old way and use the bbq grill out back but then you got the people using the new way, which is...lets say, McDonald's...

There is no skill involved whatsoever working at McD makin burgers, but there is some skill needed to not make a blackened block of ground beef on the bbq grill....However, which one is mainstream? Which one is more efficient? Which way is the easiest way possible to get a decent burger?

Thats right...McDonald's. Some people wont use the macro because they claim they are better skilled doing it their way. But what do you say when someone using the macro can do just as good, if not better, than you? That they arent skilled enough? Apparently they are if they're doing as good, if not better, than you are doing it the hard way....

Thinking smarter, not harder and getting shit done in the easiest and most efficient way possible is what the majority of people will do, skill required or not.

Stonestrong · 02-20-2009, 04:33 AM

Your analogy sucks dick and if you use a macro like that you are a fucking nub, period.....

Vulkan · 02-20-2009, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stonestrong

Your analogy sucks dick and if you use a macro like that you are a fucking nub, period.....

I actually agree with Stone on this one.. I do get an eerie feeling though, that the NON fighters that have noe clue on tanking will prolly take the noob over me for tanking.. unless they know me from past groups..

Luckily I have a squishy I play alot now adays... so with this change, any noob can tank successfully.. ;) Easier to gather groups..