NANEEJE

8 points in Idolic Axe, bumping my hate gain substantially.
For every day zones i have never taken this section, always just had 2 points in it, so i could max 8 points in swift axe for speed, and the double attack (3rd button).
How much is that hate gain really helping? Not really struggling with aggro at all since i put points in rescue and holy ground for shadow line. Just wondering, loss heal crit for that. (were raiding Nexona to 40%, coercers figured out the adds, so we should kill it tonight)
I would rather have the heal crit back, noticing a big difference without it. I am not noticing any severe hate gain with idolic axe, though. Thanks.

Jeal

the thing is.. you should only put as much as you need in that ability.. if you're struggling.. a few more points wouldn't hurt.. but usually.. if you have a dirge/coercer to tank with.. or at least a dirge and amends on a high dps.. you won't have any issues.. i'd say its a waste of points based on what you're saying

Pinski

After the changes, putting points into this AA won't be so bad.

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Nybo

Obtaining some of the new + hate gain items from Palace of Ferzhul isn't a bad idea either for when the change occurs.

Hakanese

Depends if they overhaul the threat amounts on the gear 600 ish every 1.8 times a minute off a successful attack ain't foshizzle on 8k taunts.
Might as well start hitting grp heals.
But tbh as mentioned earlier with a "peach" grp of dirge coercer u can get away with the minimal in there, come overhaul it gets changed to a taunt anyway.
Just get used to cycling the taunt/rescue/holy ground/sigil buttons whenever needed. tbh with Aerodick's plans on hold, it's kinda wait and see scenario with hate gain builds

boli

8 points in STR xxx8 is REQUIRED AA if ya ever wanna tank anything after GU51 imho.

Nybo

Is there cap on Hate Gain? I thought it was 50 or something around that...or was that just "hate transfer"?

Hakanese

does the holy ground/ trample combo still work?

Obsidian

definetley not required to keep agro but it will help

like that other guy said just got to cycle you abillitys and we have enough of those to make that not that hard of a task.

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NANEEJE

Well guys, just my opinion here, but I have tanked crap with out the line for a very long time,
I now have the points in my there for my tank spec, i chose to go 4,8,8,8,2, str, and 4,8,8,2,2 Sta for DA, 4,4, whatever was left in INT for spell crit

I miss the heal crit, no doubt, but I am hitting way less taunts in live mode right now, im not on test, not testing the "no amends" , so this is only for those live, but if you are struggling with aggro, use it. If your not, take those points and put them in heal crit, That rocks as well. If you have no problem holding hate and you never heal at all, then I have no advice for you