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[steve11418]

Originally Posted by Avanguardia

I think I might be the only paladin on all of najena now that raids...

There is at least 2 of us Avanguardia.

Dekain
MT Southern Cross. Najena

[Melle]

Up and coming OT for Sabaki, so theres at least 3 of us. Its a shame that we arent being looked at for a rework, surely Sony can see the influx of betrayals and wonder why?
Anyway I love my pally, and sure we are getting a bad rap as single mob tanks, but upcoming fighter changes can hope to improve us. Especially our set bonus.

[boli]

Getting a bad rep for single target tanks?.... hardly when I tank for my guild I rarely see the next highest at more than 30% of my hate... agro is still locked

[Melle]

Not everyone is decked out in Avatar gear, putting out insane dps.

[boli]

<--- doesn't kill avatars :P

[Obsidian]

Originally Posted by Melle

Up and coming OT for Sabaki, so theres at least 3 of us. Its a shame that we arent being looked at for a rework, surely Sony can see the influx of betrayals and wonder why?
Anyway I love my pally, and sure we are getting a bad rap as single mob tanks, but upcoming fighter changes can hope to improve us. Especially our set bonus.

bad rep for single target ? we have the best single target agro in the game imo :p (dont even need amends for it)

and rework is a pretty strong word a few tweeks to DF + DA are all we need imo

[Obsidian]

Originally Posted by Melle

Not everyone is decked out in Avatar gear, putting out insane dps.

im in an avatar killing guild but my agro abillitys are through AA,s and what SOE gave me as a class.

sigil ..... doesent drop form an avatar
faithfull cry ........ doesent drop from avatars
holyground ......... blah blah blah could mention a few more abillitys but you get the idea :p

could even mention trak sheild in there as it drops from a mob that is now very easy and u can port straight to his zone now.

but forgetting about the sheild pallys agro has very little to do with gear pallys agro is leet from the ground up.

[Lansalas]

SK vs Paladins imo :

- SK has more dps with same gear/same skills than Paladin
- SK has better offensive buffs.
- Paladin has better defensive buffs (Group armament DOES rocks in raid, boosting healers raid wide too!)
- SK is a bit (a tiny bit) more efficient at aggro keeping on multitarget but Paladin is a a bit more efficient on solo targets and noone can take aggro over a target as fast as a Paladin (ok ok, Monks equals us)
-Paladins and Sk have more or less the same survavibilty (Both rocks at surviving I'd say).

Imo, the only reason everyone betrays SK those day is because of that fucking parse. SK owns us on parse, fact. Where I dps 8k on palace trash, my sk mate does 10k. But we don't have to complain though, we have been treated quite ok with TSO (errrr that is to say if we forget our garbage effects on TSO gear or the omfg stupid end line 1 hit block ability ).

[Jeal]

Originally Posted by Lansalas

SK vs Paladins imo :

- SK has more dps with same gear/same skills than Paladin --> no

- SK has better offensive buffs. --> yes

- Paladin has better defensive buffs (Group armament DOES rocks in raid, boosting healers raid wide too!) -->yes

- SK is a bit (a tiny bit) more efficient at aggro keeping on multitarget --> no

but Paladin is a a bit more efficient on solo targets and noone can take aggro over a target as fast as a Paladin --> yes

(ok ok, Monks equals us ) --> NO!!!!!!!!

-Paladins and Sk have more or less the same survavibilty (Both rocks at surviving I'd say). --> no

Imo, the only reason everyone betrays SK those day is because of that fucking parse. SK owns us on parse, fact. Where I dps 8k on palace trash, my sk mate does 10k. But we don't have to complain though, we have been treated quite ok with TSO (errrr that is to say if we forget our garbage effects on TSO gear or the omfg stupid end line 1 hit block ability ). --> it is a good ability but not great

[Lansalas]

Sir, if you do dps better than a sk with same group/ same gear, I'm very sorry to say that your SK friend sucks.

SKs dps more than us pallies. Fact.

Don't get me wrong about aggro control on multitarget encounter, any non-retarded paladin can keep aggro with no sweat, whatever the number of mobs. Was just saying that some SK skills are just amazingly OP for multitarget aggro (Grave Sacrament + Deathmarch is a very impressive aggro combination). Let's say both classes are equal.

For the monk, ok...I admit...I wrote that with a monk friend reading my post right behind me

About survavibility, I'd like you to explain a bit more about it. Do you mean no, SKs have more survavibilty than us? Or no, we do own them? In either case, I'd like to know why .