marcusavalon

Was looking for some thoughts

I tanked Switchmaster last night in MT group

which was

Paladin
Templar
Defiler
Coercer
Warden ( Crit mit booster)
Dirge

The MT guardian was wiping on the guy he has slightly better aviod and mit than me and more crit mit and has taken all the guard defensive AA in shadows. I have taken all Paladin defensive ones in shadows as well.

When we were looking at damage the Guardian was taking 2.5 million HP of damage where as I only took 1.5 million on the same fight?

I know the mythical helps with the 10% heal but cant believe this is making such a huge differance.

We are not a hard core raiding guild but would appreciate any thoughts on what the differance would be?

Does the switch Master just dislike Guardians?

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Fantas

your mythical reduces incoming damage by 10% and heals for 10%. It could also be something as simple as your debuffers waking up and doing their job.

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boli

Constantly keeping yourself cured as much as possible, firing up a group heal every time an AoE gets off takes a lot of pressure off your healers and allows them more time to debuff, and keep the curing fast and accurate.

If played right a Paladin tanking is a healer's dream.

Kiljoi

absolutely true as I have been told this on several occasions by several healers.

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EQ - Blitzgore of Tarew Marr - retired

EQII - Kiljoi of Blackburrow - on hiatus

Anurra

QFE.

Fidelus

It's mostly your mythical helping out. Once you guys have enough gear to nullify the crits, your Guard will be better on most mobs.

There are a few mobs this xpac where a paladin is better choice than Guard IMO...Switchmaster, prenerf Pentaclypse, Anashti Sul...then once you kill em a few times/ get gear it stops mattering.

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth

edited to add- Guards get bent over by non-physical damage much more than us. Also, on Switchmaster, when Exo goes off and you eat a delevel at the same time, and your healers go flying...What do you do? Pot the delevel and cure the exo off yourself. The Guard pots one, and dies if he doesn't have a special up.

Aerofae

I think crit mit plays a big roll also when speaking about crit mit.. how much crit mit you had marc? how much your guard had?

Just for comparison i took 1.3m total dmg today with 80% crit mit as sk (in off stance).

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Meshuggahx- 80 Shadowknight of Butcherblock

Aerofae - 80 Warden of Butcherblock

Headbang - 80 Troubadour of Butcherblock

marcusavalon

In answer to the question I have 37% Crit mit without the 15% + from Warden so 52% the guard had 54%.

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Stonestrong

With 3 healers in that group the dirge should be able to tank it, sounds like this Guardian fucking sucks.

NJ though......

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Thundaarr

I have had a similar problem in my guild, but on the Tythus fight. We had our beserker tank it, and 3 healers were having a VERY hard time keeping him up. (warden, templar, defiler, dirge, coercer in MT group) Our zerker had 3 peices of TSO, the rest VP gear, etc. He can tank Xebnok without missing a beat, kultak, etc... yet Tythus wrecked his ass. Same group, same healers, the SK hardly took dmg it seemed, and was even able to tank a couple of the adds from the portal without too many problems when they got on him and we got backed up due to bad port/AE (2 groups healers went down)

I know that SK's have lifetaps, but I cannot see why there would be such a disparity.