Faxon

WTB divine favor revamp for shield block buff PST, paying 5000pp

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Gilgame

i hardly ever use divine favor or consecrate. sigil of heroism i use to retain agro while draging a mob into place, works nicely. i suppose if i really wanted to, i could use consecrate more often to hold adds better, but frankly they usually die fast enough without my constant 100 damage nuke.

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Wozamil

Consecrate is amazing for multi mob encounters when tanking. I generally fire it off before pulling the mobs so they are hit with it immediately and I haven't lost a mage yet when doing so.

And yes, get rid of Castigate and Divine Favor. While were at it, make Doom Judgement worthwile. Damage is shit, and it will dispell effects in an AE, but doesn't allow enough levels that it won't remove more than 1 effect. And for heavens sake, reduce the recast from 5m to 1m.

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Arraza

See now I rarely use Sigil (never really have agro issues), and always use consecrate. I have a M1 consecrate and its range I think is 250-350 with my specs, and with spell crits at 70% its into the 400 per hit per mob so its a nice way to hold agro and do some decent dps. It also doesn't seem to interfere with your autoattack, while the animation doesn't show you attacking the log is showing it.

and divine aura is useless...

Arraza

I like the idea of DJ, it would be cool to see an upgraded version like you say.

Castigate isn't too bad, its occasionally useful. Would like to see it replaced with something more useful, or made more useful with reduced timers. About the only time I use it is when I am soloing or on an encounter were my healer is busy or doesn't have the ability to quickly cure the group.

Sumgi

Very good original post. I do use Sigil often and use Consecrate as more of an agro tool vs DPS. As for Divine Favor, im still uncertain what idiot thought dying twice in the same encounter would be beneficial.

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Vonbek

LoL well said...

I retired my paladin months ago...

I never ever use divine favor....Castigate are you kidding worthless when grouped with healer with any skill...

Consecrate power to damage it just sucks...Now if this spell had a knock back or a daze or double damage on undead well then it would own.

Our second page blows ass. Almost as bad as wardens...Why do necros get uber lifeburn...Wizards mana burn ect ect...And we get dicked...I wanna cool spell that pwns mob in the face. How about a ward versus undead. Like old school D an D...mobs attacking us if undead get pooned....Damage sheild? maybe?

Faxon

uh dude our second page is fucking insane. you can either tripple your damage, tripple your healing, spike yer shield block, or any combination of them only slightly nerfed (Cept for shield block). if you dont like em then play a dif toon

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Mahgnus

I personally hate situational shit ex agi line and a undead ward to me would be the same thing, sounds good and looks good but how useful is gunna be after RoK hits? i don't see them putting another undead zone in like IS but i could be wrong

You should swing by the SK forums and look how much they love there DS...they don't .. b/c it is a pos as are all DS unless your 75x4

Also if your refering to our "second page" as our pally aa's then i think alot of ppl don't realize how godly shiled block is. It is the same ppl that look at there raw avoid ex 55% and think epics misses them 55 % of the time There is a long post on the eq2 fourms some where explaining how block is factor compaired to def and parry etc.

Look at Zerkers how dicked over with aa's.. so with compairing it to other tanks i think ours are on par at least /shrug

oh and agree with castigate thing it blows dogs for quarters

Vonbek

I do play a diffent toon. Here is the quote i useally get on paladins that raid. Worthless class that alot of ather classes can replace and do a better job at what a paladin does.

Shield block bahhh...Give me raw stamina...Can you get your paldin to 15-16k hp like a guardian...shield block is great the best even but when you get hit you drop like a rock...I am talking about raids, not groups of 6...cause in groups i feel we are best tank period.