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    Default Veilious...???

    So another x-pac is soon to be released and it's not an expansion unless paladins get another nerf soooooo....what will it be this time??? Just curious i saw the Official thread on class changes but no pally stuff was included so i can only imagine what they have up their sleves :smiley-mad:
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    Default Re: Veilious...???

    I put in a plug for the pallies in that thread.. so when you get your crit heals back i want credit

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    They are "Considering" "Improving" paladin heals "fundamentally", by making them "Faster cast", "higher amounts", and "Longer recasts".

    The idea was brought up to them and they "liked it".

    Naturally, this means they're getting nerfed harder. Won't be 'til halfway through next expansion before they rebalance them, make them somewhat decent and refresh the mockery for the next two expansions on how bad our class is compared to SKs :P

    As it stands, however, we kind of already took another blow. With how two handers developed this expansion and the boost they gave them, we are forced to ditch sword/board to go with a two hander for DPS. This is fine, except for the fact that our base auto attack multiplier is completely unpadded by knight's stance without a shield on.

    Previously, dpsing with a sword and shield was our alternative to using a two hander. We could put up competitive numbers without the inconvenience of switching gear out if we have to tank or pick up a mob. It's now playing outside our favor, and other tanks should be doing significantly more auto attack damage in the offtank role. I'm still putting up good numbers, but have nothing but crusaders to compare to so I don't know the applied difference in dps.

    I am just concerned about the next expansion and the further rift in dps with a new set of content to break and the full time sword/board setup getting trounced by increasingly powerful two handers.

    Not a big deal for crusader MT's with fighter offtanks or brawler offtanks.. but I'd imagine that's a smaller demographic

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    wow it sickens me to even believe your a person, no human being would say this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maergoth View Post
    Not a big deal for crusader MT's with fighter offtanks or brawler offtanks.. but I'd imagine that's a smaller demographic
    I kinda thought that setup was the norm...it's exactly how I run....ps. nice cartoon
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    A lot of guilds are still rolling with Guard MT Pally/SK OT with a monk laying around. Alternatively, pally MT SK OT or SK MT Pally OT.. don't know of anyone MTing with a brawler though :P
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    With veilious I'm predicting that you will see an end to Pally OTs given the slew of abilities SKS and Zerkers can bring. Even now you have to be pretty good to replace an SK or zerker in the OT slot.

    What pallys need.. what we have ALWAYS needed is decent defensive buffs based aorund healing; somethign that is different but rivals guards in defensive; i.e. paly/guard = MT and SK/Zerker = OT

    At the end of the day I don't care how much DPS I'm doing as long as I hold and survive agro whatever is thrown at me. However saying that: I don't think our reflect will last into the next expansion, and buffs such as VC are definatly going to be reduced meaning our DPS is going to be reduced.... unlike other classes where with an expansion change their DPS will increase (if other expansions are any guide two fold increase).

    Veilious is looking like a Warrior expansion: think : Guard/Zerker or Zerker/SK. - Unless we see some pretty decent overhauls in our entire healing department we are going to be pushed out.

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    Some of you guys will never be satisfied. The class is more than fine right now and as long as you can play your toon well you will always be able to find a spot in a decent or better guild.

    Regardless of what Zerkers or Sks get if you can do work you won't be replaced due to not being the proper class. Did anybody get replaced after the heal nerfs? It's the same doomsday shit every expansion.


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    Default Re: Veilious...???

    I just hope they give us one more snap. Rescue, sneering assault, and holy ground come up short every now and then, especially if sneering gets resisted.

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    Yeah, not having a powerful unique snap is kind of painful but there aren't enough total memwipes to make it necessary.. some fights just need a second or third tank.
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    Original Holy Ground.....lol


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