pig

Hi, i will be grateful if you advice me aa setup that is good enough for purpose of group pvp, pve grouping and occasional raiding.

in group pvp i will be mostly as secondary taunter/ support so i think for that is good EoF aa setup as wraths/support + faster ward recast

on occasional raids i wont be taking because we have guard and zerker so same EoF aa will fit

but i really cant decide on KoS aa setup for both categories, if i take spell crits, then i have only limited choices...

if i wouldnt take spell crits i could have haste from str and melee crits from sta...

so what about battle leadership? it looks great having +34 to atack/cast skills so i can stay in defensive and hit target easily

Faxon

battle leadership is a relatively useless line, even after the next respec. for what you are doing as a support role, i would advise going down str too the bottom and int to spell crits. as for your eof setup, sounds about right for a heavy support role espescially when you combine it with the heal crits. just be warned, you will burn a lot of power healing this often, so get a good delay weapon (for procing) and adorn it with the legendary phantom pommel. most paladins have power issues already and i find that this is an excelent remedy for my power issues.

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pig

im not thinking of taking heal crits, their cast time and power cost is ridiculous, only thing that is usable in pvp is the ward

and that STR line in KoS AA, it doesnt look usable for me in pvp group at all, IF i dont take wis line then i would think of sta... i heard they boost wis line a bit in next lu?

Faxon

no they boosted the agi line. agi 3 will give you a 40% chance for multiple target auto attack at 8 points, and they completely removed the horse requirement. there are several threads on it in this forum right on top here, read up on the new changes and how we all feel about them vs before and what we thing they will be good for.

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Obsidian

they really removed the horse requirement ? :D ....... woot if they did !

Steel

For PVP, also think the Agi line has other nice things, 2nd one down gives you the ability to port to your target, so if that pesky ranger snares/roots you, port over to him and introduce him to melee/stuns. Further down the line you have snare capability and and ability that grants a chance to ignore knockbacks. The int line has some interesting features if it goes live with the increased resists on the heal crit, the ability to reflect class and racial spells 1 a min and the use of another range spell in addition to our normal spell crits and a reduced heal crits.

Remember that Trample(aoe on melee) will still break any mezzes in its range(even tho the exact same ability ala hurricane on swashies does not), so if you group with mezzers they may not be fans of your spec on this. With the no horse required it is a simple turning on and off of ability, but the devs need to fix this and dragoon's cyclone(or whatever the warrior aoe ability is) so it will not break on non targeted mobs. It should be treated the same as a PBAOE on if it breaks a mez.

Faxon

yea those are some good points steel, i forgot about a lot of that hehe. dont play PVP so dont much know what is really needed vs PVE.

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Kuian

Actually, in group PVP you will be the primary tank because you have two tools that will keep you in that spot...amends and sigil. Thus you need to spec for survivability for PVP and DPS for raiding.

Full STA Line- When engaging another group/raid, pop your group taunt then sigil then DA.
INT line to get spell crits coupled with the Wrath line, you will do some amazing damage in group/raid PVP because of how many AoE's a Paladin has.
Then Hero line...obvious reasons

When you're group is engaging toss out your group taunt then sigil (like I stated above) then I like to follow that with consecrate and my other AoEs when my taunts are down. I normally put my amends on a squishy as they are usually the first PVP target. Yes amends works in PVP, yes I have tested this.

-Liluk