Obsidian

paladin can maintank just some people are to shit (like grenadier on my server to do so) :p

but i defo do agree we are better suited to OT and also agree it is a more challenging job than MT trample + amends on a warlock + our AE,s give us some serious AE agro

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boli

Oh god I forgot about him... I had wiped my mind of that 'tard. I dispise *any* paladin who can't play the damn class and it cuts me up inside to see the class being mutilated.

MeridianR

I can't see how a 448 Agi, Sta, Int spec'd Paladin couldn't hold AE aggro even better then a Zerker.

Throw in Amends and aggro should be wtfpwn'd

Mahgnus

noone can even come close to our aggro control single target or aoe

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Onra

How do you deal with memwipes Mahgnus? Or if charmed mid fight?

Glacien

Thats one of the biggest issues I have had tanking and its tricky to deal with but if the rest of the raid force is ready with deaggros and stuff like that it usually goes fine. I have a hard time with Tender in EH with the memblur or whatever it is he does but it normally bounces between all the scouts so he doesnt run off away from me and it is easier to get back.

MeridianR

WTB: Some sort of hate generation while we are stunned / stifled.

While not stunned, that build and amends we are aggro gods. Add a stun or stifle and we are fucked.

Some sort of reactive hate proc, OR at least have Righteousness work when stunned / stifled - anything at this point would be better.

Mahgnus

Mobs with mem wipes really don't bother me to much b/c i have a sysem i use that imo works very well. My normal group now of days looks like this

Defiler
Templar
Dirge
Coercer
Warden/Swashy (on trash)

What i have done lets say on Tender. )The cunt mem shifts and mem drops all the fucking time.) I setup my group hate like this. Dirge hate on Coercer and Coercer hate on me with amends on coercer. (which is great aggro if you have a good coerer dps speced like mine) One of the key things is knowing the difference between mem drop and mem shift. You have to react to them differently to grab aggro back in a timely matter. For a mem shit if i know one is inc i save my shield bash and group taunt for when it drops and hit those right away. Shield bash being first, before the mob moves away and then group taunt and bow shot. I have never had a mem drop not come back on me after those 3 in succession also b/c i have amends on my coercer he is stuning stifleing etc on the mob so i gaining all that hate on top of my 2 taunts and bow shot.

Mem shift however is a bitch b/c we just lost several hate spots in the list. So do the same thing with as a drop but your Amends person is key to gain hate back. What i have my coercer do is load his auspex (massive damage when the mob hit something) when i think the mob is due to mem shift and when it actually does drop. He hits sonic boom (like 5 K aoe) with the combo of auspex (when the mob hits somone) auspex procs + sonic boom + my 2/3 taunts and bow shot(s) i get the mob back with in a few seconds. If all else fails and she is really being a trick, Rescue at a last resort.

Another of my fav is if my normal Coercer isn't on i have my guilds brig/swashy be my amends target and when it drop they use there taunt. Not as effective as a well played Coercer but it works.

Key thing is makin sure your amends person know how important he/she really is for our class, ya i know it blows but it is what we have to do to have the supreme hands down best aggro control.

So summary Amends = FTW and key to aggro drop mobs

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J/k these are just a few thing that i have found that works very well for me on mem drop/shift mobs.

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Raistin

i just put amends on a good swashy or assassin, stick them on the mobs ass and say go to town...even on memblurs and shit goes away for about 2 seconds and comes right back.

Gaidal

I watched Mahgnus MT the Matron on my server the other day np.

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