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Old 07-31-2007, 06:15 AM  
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Mobs with mem wipes really don't bother me to much b/c i have a sysem i use that imo works very well. My normal group now of days looks like this

Defiler
Templar
Dirge
Coercer
Warden/Swashy (on trash)

What i have done lets say on Tender. )The cunt mem shifts and mem drops all the fucking time.) I setup my group hate like this. Dirge hate on Coercer and Coercer hate on me with amends on coercer. (which is great aggro if you have a good coerer dps speced like mine) One of the key things is knowing the difference between mem drop and mem shift. You have to react to them differently to grab aggro back in a timely matter. For a mem shit if i know one is inc i save my shield bash and group taunt for when it drops and hit those right away. Shield bash being first, before the mob moves away and then group taunt and bow shot. I have never had a mem drop not come back on me after those 3 in succession also b/c i have amends on my coercer he is stuning stifleing etc on the mob so i gaining all that hate on top of my 2 taunts and bow shot.

Mem shift however is a bitch b/c we just lost several hate spots in the list. So do the same thing with as a drop but your Amends person is key to gain hate back. What i have my coercer do is load his auspex (massive damage when the mob hit something) when i think the mob is due to mem shift and when it actually does drop. He hits sonic boom (like 5 K aoe) with the combo of auspex (when the mob hits somone) auspex procs + sonic boom + my 2/3 taunts and bow shot(s) i get the mob back with in a few seconds. If all else fails and she is really being a trick, Rescue at a last resort.

Another of my fav is if my normal Coercer isn't on i have my guilds brig/swashy be my amends target and when it drop they use there taunt. Not as effective as a well played Coercer but it works.

Key thing is makin sure your amends person know how important he/she really is for our class, ya i know it blows but it is what we have to do to have the supreme hands down best aggro control.

So summary Amends = FTW and key to aggro drop mobs

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J/k these are just a few thing that i have found that works very well for me on mem drop/shift mobs.

I prefer to put it on our assasin we have... I call over TS if I loose agro to another peep or sometimes to him

xxx has agro - (he whaks a few CA and it snaps back to me)
you have agro - he hits his deagro or turns off autoattack (last resort) - hate snaps back to me.

Was in courts last night (don't judge; we were bored and had a handful of peeps who wanted to play ) and Sunchild memwipes I didn't even notice happening :D

But Manghus is right... keep in close comunication with your amends target and hate is LOCKED... have a dud in amends and you might as well hand up your shield as you're screwed paladin without amends is fighting an uphill battle against hate.

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Old 08-09-2007, 09:33 AM  
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WTB: Some sort of hate generation while we are stunned / stifled.

While not stunned, that build and amends we are aggro gods. Add a stun or stifle and we are fucked.

Some sort of reactive hate proc, OR at least have Righteousness work when stunned / stifled - anything at this point would be better.
If you know its going to happen, you can put up sigil just before you get stunned and that does pretty well for 20s or so..

Obviously the IF is a big one there though.
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:47 AM  
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Yeah, but that is once every couple mins - and isn't reliable since you would need to know exactly when to hit it each and every time.

You could get Jestered I guess and it would lower the recast some - but having a reliable taunt, or hate generation while stun/stifled (we are the only plate tank which doesn't btw) hurts.
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:54 AM  
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If you've ever fought contested Mayong for example, you'll get stunned 3-5 times a minute. Makes it really hard to grab adds when stunned. The whole fight will boil down to how fast your healer can get unstunned himself, and then cure your stun. It's frusterating watching a mob beat up on a healer and I'm 2 feet away from it and can't do anything but watch.
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Old 08-09-2007, 01:43 PM  
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If you've ever fought contested Mayong for example, you'll get stunned 3-5 times a minute. Makes it really hard to grab adds when stunned. The whole fight will boil down to how fast your healer can get unstunned himself, and then cure your stun. It's frusterating watching a mob beat up on a healer and I'm 2 feet away from it and can't do anything but watch.
Amen to that
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:53 PM  
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We use pally as MT for most encounters and shift to the zerker on a few.

Our MT group looks like this.

Pally
Dirge
Templar
Defiler
Fury
Warlock

Have the fury in there for VIM on the warlock.

We have the best luck with warlock for quick AOE hate so the rest of the raid can open up sooner.
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