Lastat

This is Fucking BS, How about they remove wis and add the plus to heals not remove str. I mean WTF, Sony must think were healers, not tanks. I always hated how our group str/wis buff aa increased wis not str now we get the 10 incher forced up us without lube. Thanx sony!!!!!!!!!

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Wyvernblade

Lame.

Remove part of the crusader buffs, but give everyone else a bonus.

I can understand if they don't want SK and Paladin STR buffs to stack raid wide but I don't really think this is the way to handle it.

Wozamil

I'd take a STA buff anyday over Wis that SK's get. Damn. There's no reason to remove STR. They took STR away from SK's, so leave it for us.

This change is complete bullshit. Give Paladins +melee crit and SK's +spell crit. If you want to give something up to healers of the raid, add a stackable +45 heal crit for pally's and +45 damage from sk's. Don't let crusaders become (remain??) the runt of the fighter tree.


We still can't taunt while stunned. Don't let anyone tell you that you got amends. We know that does no good when pulling and you get stunned. How much agro does that person with Amends generate in the first second of the fight?

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Thundaarr

Yeah, the removal of the str portion of this makes me a sad panda... Hopefully they will rethink this change.

Wozamil

Fuck that, it's not even the removal of the STR that really pisses me off. Ya, it pisses me off, but not half as much as what they are doing to compensate monks and bruisers with this change. It's the fact that they have been given a sick advanatage for limited raid spots. A pally with amends can OT well, but I have seen monks and bruisers able to do it just as well. No raid is going to bring 4-6 fighter classes. They'll bring a monk in and ask me to sit because he will provide awesome raid wide haste. If he can do an equal job, fuck me, I get to sit, and I wouldn't blame the RL.

I'm so close to calling it quits. Thank god I don't have an alt I can resort to playing to.

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Thundaarr

Yeah, I agree. Like I posted earlier when I first saw this I thought "wtf, a +90 to heals... they should just make it raid wide increase of crit heal %, and SK's should get raid wide spell crit %"

I really don't think they will be able to find any balanced way to make 5 or 6 fighters viable or wanted in a raid force. It's just hard to get the dps you need with that type of force. What they're trying though is not the answer, imo

Wozamil

The only way they can make it fair is if each fighter class gave the same benefit. Reduce dramatically the benefit given, and make it stackable. That's about the only way.

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Onra

If they want to give us a healing type buff, a raid wide 80 level cure all spell or raid wide immunity to control effects would be pretty sweet. I'd take that over crits or +heals

Glacien

WTF I heard some of my guildies talking about this and I thought they were just giving me a hard time about being a pally like usual. I never thought that sony would actually do this. That is some crap. I think I would probably not be as irritated if they just took the str or wis out and not gave us anything to replace it. Yes I know that we have healing abilities but we are not freakin healers any more than an SK is a wizzy. I mean hell, dirges have a heal why not just give them some +heal crap while they are at it

boli

Heh... in an amusing note: this thread triggered the obsenity filter at work and whlie I used to be able to brouse eq2flames in peace at work it is now blocked as "adult content" as soon as I viewed this thread :P