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    I've been messing around with reforging / adorning recently to improve on my hit rate recently.

    I didn't get the zone-wide at the end of the evening but I was seeing some 90+% and averaging around 85%, this was with 820 slashing, 26% accuracy 21% strikethrough. Given I was seeing ~60% hit rate before without any accuracy it seems this is the magic stat once you cap out on +slashing (I believe its 776 vs a lvl 104 mob).

    Going to be testing Strikethough and how that effects it this weekend; previously it was next to useless in raising it I dropped from 59% ST to 21% ST and saw pretty much zero change in the hit rate - in fact since I reforged the ST into DPS stats I actually saw a slight increase in DPS.

    I will not (cannot) post ANY exact details for obvious reasons; but whlist I am experimenting I'll share as much of my results as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boli View Post
    I've been messing around with reforging / adorning recently to improve on my hit rate recently.

    I didn't get the zone-wide at the end of the evening but I was seeing some 90+% and averaging around 85%, this was with 820 slashing, 26% accuracy 21% strikethrough. Given I was seeing ~60% hit rate before without any accuracy it seems this is the magic stat once you cap out on +slashing (I believe its 776 vs a lvl 104 mob).

    Going to be testing Strikethough and how that effects it this weekend; previously it was next to useless in raising it I dropped from 59% ST to 21% ST and saw pretty much zero change in the hit rate - in fact since I reforged the ST into DPS stats I actually saw a slight increase in DPS.

    I will not (cannot) post ANY exact details for obvious reasons; but whlist I am experimenting I'll share as much of my results as possible.
    Awesome, I look forward to the results.

    Some people have already done something similar in the Guardian thread but it looks all theoretical and doesnt look like they have actually tested it. Basicall what they were saying is aim for around 20% accuracy, which I have and seem to achieving on average a 80% hit rate. So it would seem that 30% accuaracy is the magic number?

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    Default Re: Target Numbers for Stats

    it depends if you are in front of the mob or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by boli View Post
    it depends if you are in front of the mob or not
    Hmm, didnt think of that...lets say in front.

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    Can't find too many details; nor am I allowed to provide them but:

    Accuracy ~25-35% (Crusader's Faith)
    Strikethrough ~49-59% (Crusader's Faith)
    Slashing Skill ~800

    Hit rate was ~80%

    I was MTing and in front of the mob; none brawler I *think*... will have to check that later.

    It does seem there is a flat frontal avoidance you cannot strikethrough; I've never seen a MT parse over 85%; the only parses I have seen over that number is if you are bouncing behind/in front of the mob due to tank swaps.

    One thing I have been noticing is pushing 16% base accuracy (3 reforges) 45% strikethrough (not reforging it away this time) and capping out my slashing skill (776 I think) has significantly improved my hitrate once I am in a raid.

    Perhaps more importantly it doesn't seem the strikethrough is worth much until you cap out your +slashing AND get some accuracy gear bonuses. i.e. you have to HIT the mob first in order to have a strikethrough attempt. just the +weapon skills alone sadly do not do it you really need the +accuracy.



    I highly recommend reforging to get some accuracy even the first 10% is a nice boost if you have the +s/c/p skills high enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boli View Post
    Can't find too many details; nor am I allowed to provide them but:

    Accuracy ~25-35% (Crusader's Faith)
    Strikethrough ~49-59% (Crusader's Faith)
    Slashing Skill ~800

    Hit rate was ~80%

    I was MTing and in front of the mob; none brawler I *think*... will have to check that later.

    It does seem there is a flat frontal avoidance you cannot strikethrough; I've never seen a MT parse over 85%; the only parses I have seen over that number is if you are bouncing behind/in front of the mob due to tank swaps.

    One thing I have been noticing is pushing 16% base accuracy (3 reforges) 45% strikethrough (not reforging it away this time) and capping out my slashing skill (776 I think) has significantly improved my hitrate once I am in a raid.

    Perhaps more importantly it doesn't seem the strikethrough is worth much until you cap out your +slashing AND get some accuracy gear bonuses. i.e. you have to HIT the mob first in order to have a strikethrough attempt. just the +weapon skills alone sadly do not do it you really need the +accuracy.



    I highly recommend reforging to get some accuracy even the first 10% is a nice boost if you have the +s/c/p skills high enough.
    What's with all the secrecy, dude? You say in a couple of posts in this thread that you cannot (and would not) reveal information and that you're not allowed to reveal other information. Kind of a tease...

    Anyhow, got my C/S/P up to >750 and have reforged into exactly 10% accuracy & ~20% ST. Will post hit rates after this week's raids.
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    After 8 years of dealing with ignorant as shit dps classes who have NO IDEA how much it fucking blows to tank for you retards...we deserve triple potency for trash mobs.
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    I lurk on Flames quite a bit, and very rarely post lately. The main reason behind this is GOD DAMN this shit is exhausting to read. It's like two girls flinging their slapping hands at each other. No winner just a lot of flappy arm fat flinging everywhere.

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    Not teasing, guild rules do not allow me to release *any* details of our strats. Which include (but not limited to): posting parses, group/raid setups where I am standing in relation to the mob and others and which mobs we are pulling and when. A pretty standard clause and one which involves a guild /kick.

    I'll be interested to see another parses so I can compare with your stats compared to mine; those details I can divulge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boli View Post
    Not teasing, guild rules do not allow me to release *any* details of our strats. Which include (but not limited to): posting parses, group/raid setups where I am standing in relation to the mob and others and which mobs we are pulling and when. A pretty standard clause and one which involves a guild /kick.

    I'll be interested to see another parses so I can compare with your stats compared to mine; those details I can divulge.
    Sounds good, bud. I was just giving just giving you a hard time about keeping the details to yourself. Can understand your respecting of guild policies.

    Your intial observations were enough to get me to give your suggestions a try. Abysmal hit rates have left me looking for any means to improve them.

    Had the extra stats left over on a few items to reforge a little bit of accuracy. There's certainly no harm in trying. Like I said, I'll post results at the end of the week.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maergoth View Post
    After 8 years of dealing with ignorant as shit dps classes who have NO IDEA how much it fucking blows to tank for you retards...we deserve triple potency for trash mobs.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shallox View Post
    I lurk on Flames quite a bit, and very rarely post lately. The main reason behind this is GOD DAMN this shit is exhausting to read. It's like two girls flinging their slapping hands at each other. No winner just a lot of flappy arm fat flinging everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boli View Post
    Not teasing, guild rules do not allow me to release *any* details of our strats. Which include (but not limited to): posting parses, group/raid setups where I am standing in relation to the mob and others and which mobs we are pulling and when. A pretty standard clause and one which involves a guild /kick.

    I'll be interested to see another parses so I can compare with your stats compared to mine; those details I can divulge.
    Some guilds take this game way to seriously.. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulkan View Post
    Some guilds take this game way to seriously.. :P
    I agree. I would understand if it was a mob that everyone was trying to WW1st or something.... But the xpack has been cleared already. Whats the point in hiding information the top guilds are even sharing? Sounds dumb.


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