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    Anyone else experimented with this?

    Switched out Reuse on shoulders with SDA runes from Cardin Ward (5.5%) and invested eight points into Legionnaire's Focus (4%).

    At 9.5%, I notice a lot of doublecast messages during combat and my parses overall seem to have improved. Lot of variables though, so hard to pinpoint.

    I'm not ACT-savvy enough to sort SDA from regular spell damage, but I'm supposing it can be done.

    If anyone has already experimented with SDA to any reasonable extent and can report back your findings, you'd be a super-awesome, really cool dude.

    Note: I've socketed green adorns with spell reuse to more than make up for the 8% I lose from shoulders. And, yes. I know spell reuse does not affect ability reuse.
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    I have high sda on my sk and it helps.. also have few on the pally and it helps, but think it's not game breaking for pallies as much as it effects sk's.


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    Definitely depends on your group make up as well and if you know which arts are arts and which are spells. I will cast all my spells in a row then combat arts, and back and forth.
    WHEN I have an illy... I have a pair of shoulders I put on with SDA and I love to see all the Doublecast... fun. That's what makes this class fun, our ability to enjoy different aspects of dps'ing.
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    Spell Doublecast isn't as powerful as people make it out to be. Especially if you're regularly in the mage group. It isn't properly modified, and it actually breaks certain abilities. None of ours, so far as I know, but any ward that can crit and gets doublecast gets overwritten with an ability mod-less version.
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    shows up as multi under the "special" column

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    Quote Originally Posted by ta0ist View Post
    shows up as multi under the "special" column
    Right on. Will check it out after tonight's raid.

    A couple of us non-casters were trying to sift through ACT to find where it'd be, but with no luck. Go figure.
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    I'd think it would be a little bit more useful on an SK for the dots, but there are problems even with that. Abilities that tick for longer than their reuse, and no real way of tracking what's been double'd (outside some ACT tinkering that is limited). And the fact that mobs like to dispel lots of stuff often anyway.

    As a SK I do use it, and it occasionally procs on the good spells, but only Time warp gives the double ticks on the combat art dots.


    I think if you're gonna adorn for the SDA you might as well spec the AA for it in Crusader tab as well to test it out.
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    nothing like getting a double tap heal for 140% health

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumstix42 View Post
    I'd think it would be a little bit more useful on an SK for the dots, but there are problems even with that. Abilities that tick for longer than their reuse, and no real way of tracking what's been double'd (outside some ACT tinkering that is limited). And the fact that mobs like to dispel lots of stuff often anyway.

    As a SK I do use it, and it occasionally procs on the good spells, but only Time warp gives the double ticks on the combat art dots.


    I think if you're gonna adorn for the SDA you might as well spec the AA for it in Crusader tab as well to test it out.
    Yeah, I've already started noticing some wonky inconsistencies.

    For example, some ticks of Consecrate will be affected by SDA (and not just the intitial tick), as well as significant disparities in doublecast damage.

    I dunno if it's purely attributable to the RNG or some mechanic meant to limit the effectiveness of SDA.
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    Yar. Pretty sure the chance of each tick of Consecrate double-casting is independent of one another.

    Would've guessed that if the first tick double-casted, so would each subsequent one, but it's definitely not the case.

    (When you stop to consider it, there's no wonder we suffer from all sorts of lag with the simultaneous number crunching going on server-side.)
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    I lurk on Flames quite a bit, and very rarely post lately. The main reason behind this is GOD DAMN this shit is exhausting to read. It's like two girls flinging their slapping hands at each other. No winner just a lot of flappy arm fat flinging everywhere.

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