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11-19-2007, 09:07 PM
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I PVP A LOT SOMETIMES A LITTLE
Character: Zaci
Guild: Pew Pew Potty Mouth
Server: NAGAFEN
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Re: Disable level locking in PVP until level 35
People only level lock because they couldnt cut it in real pvp, when you come right down to it, their reasons are time investment nd difficulty.
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11-19-2007, 09:15 PM
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Character: Rhoslyn/Imtithal
Guild: Circle of the Greater Wyrm/Betrayed
Server: Befallen/Nagafen
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Re: Disable level locking in PVP until level 35
Agreed. Most of these low-level PvP locker peoples even think they're "super l33t" when they kill a newbie. GG, tools!
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11-19-2007, 10:04 PM
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CS: Source and COD4!
Character: Kalian
Server: www.steamcommunity.com/id/lostmesa
Posts: 344
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Re: Disable level locking in PVP until level 35
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Originally Posted by Pinski
People level lock on Vox because of plat buyers :0 Just think about it, nubs buy plat, you kill them and take their plat, lol. Talk about win-win, then you sell that plat to another nub and kill them again, lol.
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That is genius.
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11-20-2007, 01:08 AM
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Character: is now
Guild: heading to
Server: Age of Conan
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Re: Disable level locking in PVP until level 35
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Originally Posted by Pinski
People level lock on Vox because of plat buyers :0 Just think about it, nubs buy plat, you kill them and take their plat, lol. Talk about win-win, then you sell that plat to another nub and kill them again, lol.
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lol sadly that is the truth. Even sadder is how many dumbasses roll out into open zones with loads of plat on them. Just a few days ago some guy, obviously new to pvp, dinged 10 and of course got ganked to shreds in DLW. He then freaks out super hard in /ooc about how he just lost, and I shit you not, 47 plat lmao.
He was then saying SOE should warn you that you will lose plat on a pvp server :|
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11-20-2007, 04:12 AM
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Character: Bish Please
Guild: Onyx
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 8,832
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Re: Disable level locking in PVP until level 35
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Originally Posted by Bigguss
lol sadly that is the truth. Even sadder is how many dumbasses roll out into open zones with loads of plat on them. Just a few days ago some guy, obviously new to pvp, dinged 10 and of course got ganked to shreds in DLW. He then freaks out super hard in /ooc about how he just lost, and I shit you not, 47 plat lmao.
He was then saying SOE should warn you that you will lose plat on a pvp server :|
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Lol, if he lost 47, he had 100 on him =p
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11-20-2007, 06:05 AM
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Character: i hate myself
Guild: noone would invite me
Server: i dont even play this game
Posts: 123
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Re: Disable level locking in PVP until level 35
agreed that lvl locking and staying that lvl forever is very gay. though, i doubt they would ever take lvl locking out no matter how great of an argument you come up with. i'm not sure which has more players, t8 or t2-t3, but i wouldn't be surprised if there are more in t2-t3. the reason i like lvl locking and why i do it, is to only gain xp from quests, so i can get lots of aas at low lvls and have a better chance against all the 300+p toons in the lower tiers. and even though i'm locked, i still gain lvls very fast soloing quests all day.
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11-20-2007, 06:05 AM
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Noobus Maximus
Character: Rattface
Guild: Crusaders
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 112
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Re: Disable level locking in PVP until level 35
As much as I hate the t2/t3 twinks who's sole purpose in life is to grief new players, I am somewhat torn on the 'disable xp locking' argument.
'Experience all the content' IS a valid excuse for locking, although rarely a truthful one. My first character to 70 was on PvP and I levelled him as fast as I could, as a result I missed out on loads of content. So I rolled a dirge, i locked him at 10 and quested till my eyes bled. It was quite masochistic in a way, but a nice break from the game at t7. I didnt lock for the purpose of PvP, but obviously found it along the way. I won some fights, I lost some fights...but it was fun. I ended up hitting the AA cap at around lvl 40, and then it just seemed pointless to stay locked so I started levelling normally...lvl 56 now, and making my way to t8.
Admittedly, I very much doubt i will do that again so you could remove locking and I wouldn't really care, but there are some people who want to experience everything the game has to offer. Rolling on a PvP server doesnt mean that someone has to PvP 100% of the time.
You also have to consider that if you disabled it until lvl 35 you would just get the same thing in t4/t5 as you have in t2/t3 now. What will people say then? Remove locking until lvl 50? 60? Remove it completely? On one side it would hinder the efforts of the locking scrubs, but would be extremely detrimental to those who want to play the game how they want to play it.
I think a viable solution would be to make PvP kills give XP even with XP disabled. Twinks could no longer permanently grief newbies, and those who want to 'experience content' can do without a problem.
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11-20-2007, 06:13 AM
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Character: i hate myself
Guild: noone would invite me
Server: i dont even play this game
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Re: Disable level locking in PVP until level 35
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Originally Posted by LFG
Lol, if he lost 47, he had 100 on him =p
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yea that also means he's a plat buyer and diserved to lose the plat. otherwise, if that's an alt, in the time it would have taken him to make that much plat on his main he surely would have learned not to take plat with him out of town.
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11-20-2007, 11:47 AM
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Character: Bish Please
Guild: Onyx
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 8,832
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Re: Disable level locking in PVP until level 35
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Originally Posted by TheMixMonkey
You also have to consider that if you disabled it until lvl 35 you would just get the same thing in t4/t5 as you have in t2/t3 now.
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That's very true. People will lock at whatever minimum level is set.
It would be fine with me to remove level locking entirely on PVP. The reason I suggested 35 is as a compromise - it was arbitrary.
But if you set the minimum locking level at 35, then at least new players would get a chance to see how this game is played normally on Nagafen. They would have a better chance to experience regular PVP without just being rolled every five minutes.
I started my new toons in Neriak, without knowing that is now the T2 locking center of Nagafen. I tried to do the quests there before realizing it is impossible to use that zone for low level leveling and questing - it is basically pure T2 level locking PVP. I wasn't able to stay alive in DLW for more than 5 to 10 minutes at a time without getting rolled.
I've tried to start toons on this server twice before this time, and gave up both times based on the noob farming problem by T2 level lockers. It is a MISERABLE experience trying to get past T2 on Nagafen, and I really believe that most people who try to start a toon here just give up and say fuck it, how could anyone possibly think this is fun, it sucks ass.
So basically, if they moved the lock cap above T2, at least then new players could get a sense for how PVP is meant to be played. Maybe then they'll decide to continue and get past that rather than quit.
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