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Old 11-20-2007, 11:50 AM  
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People only level lock because they couldnt cut it in real pvp, when you come right down to it, their reasons are time investment nd difficulty.

zacii your fucking dumb as bricks how the fuck is lvl 70/80 cliff jumping evacing raiding real pvp
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Old 11-20-2007, 12:05 PM  
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In my opinion, those dumb titles greatly reduce the fun of PVP by making the goal of PVP to get a stupid title rather than to have fun killing people.
Agreed. Removing the fame system from T2-3 would greatly reduce the number of twinks out there harvesting newbs. Of course, the psychotics out to just make people miserable in general will still be around. But, they're easily dealt with and/or leveled past.

The fame system needs to be removed from the lower levels. No need to remove level locking. It does have its purpose for those trying to absorb all the content before leveling past it.

But, take away the reward (a title) and it won't be worth all the plat the twinks invest in to their alts.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:35 PM  
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I made a FP alt a few months ago and exiled back to Q. I'm not sure if this is still true but when I checked the guild recruitment tool most guilds that were viewable had some sort of level locking aspect to their guild and they advertised it prominently.
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Old 11-20-2007, 02:47 PM  
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I'll admit is, I've locked in T2 before. The ONLY reason I this was because otherwise its very near impossible to have enough faction for PvP gear.

Make faction start at 0 instead of -10k and a lot of people will level up. Then just add 10 levels to those who don't level up in a week so so
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Agreed. Removing the fame system from T2-3 would greatly reduce the number of twinks out there harvesting newbs. Of course, the psychotics out to just make people miserable in general will still be around. But, they're easily dealt with and/or leveled past.

The fame system needs to be removed from the lower levels. No need to remove level locking. It does have its purpose for those trying to absorb all the content before leveling past it.

But, take away the reward (a title) and it won't be worth all the plat the twinks invest in to their alts.
Why just lower levels? Same problem everywhere, and I completely agree with LFG. The title system takes away so much potential fun, and rewards running rather than fighting. They should either change it, or remove it completely.

One of the suggested changes that (I think) has been discussed with the devs already, is to make it something that decays over time, instead of through PvP death.
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I think a viable solution would be to make PvP kills give XP even with XP disabled. Twinks could no longer permanently grief newbies, and those who want to 'experience content' can do without a problem.
This absolutely should be patched in like immediately.
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Old 11-20-2007, 06:58 PM  
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This absolutely should be patched in like immediately.
Cause nobody could die to a city gaurd 100 times before going out and pvp'ing. Even if you disable level locking or take any measure to stop it, you will never abolish XP debt. And with XP debt there is always the road of just getting it to an exagerrated number to where gaining XP would be erasing debt for hours.

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Cause nobody could die to a city gaurd 100 times before going out and pvp'ing. Even if you disable level locking or take any measure to stop it, you will never abolish XP debt. And with XP debt there is always the road of just getting it to an exagerrated number to where gaining XP would be erasing debt for hours.
There is no XP debt on PvP servers already.
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Old 11-20-2007, 08:03 PM  
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Default Re: Disable level locking in PVP until level 35

I PVP on Venekor, and while it is not as populated at Nagafen, the DLW/Locker issue is the exact same. I tried to "play" in DLW for a week or so, and then just lvl'd as fast as I could out of that tier. He is now lvl 52.

My pvp toon not being my first toon, made it a bit easier to lvl/play/quest than someone new to the game, however it still was real hard to do ANYTHING at that tier.

I really like the PVP kill = xp idea, even with combat xp turned off.
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I'll admit is, I've locked in T2 before. The ONLY reason I this was because otherwise its very near impossible to have enough faction for PvP gear.

Make faction start at 0 instead of -10k and a lot of people will level up. Then just add 10 levels to those who don't level up in a week so so
Or Sony could do what they did originally and not have pvp gear till level 40. The only reason they did it was to make XP lockers stop crying like faggots.

Before if you actually pvpd you'd have faction for the gear at 40 even if you grinded XP.
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