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Old 11-30-2007, 09:13 AM  
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Default Re: Whiners about titles -- a solution

Fame is retarded, ignore it until SoE comes up with something better. You should be playing on a PvP server to kill people, not to have a pretty title~

No need to make a thread complaining about people complaining about it now is there?
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Old 11-30-2007, 10:16 AM  
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i would love to just be 'Popsi' and not care about fame at all.... dont get me wrong i am addicted to being a fame whore, everyone who has General+ is, evn if they say so or not. i wish they put a reset fame counter in the game, so that everyimte i hit hunter i cud reset my fame
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Old 12-03-2007, 09:56 AM  
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It wouldn't surprise me if SoE gets rid of fame and titles. It would be a bad business move at this time, but some of SoE's moves have really surprised me before.

No it wouldn't. The cost of maintenance for servers, accounts, etc. is far higher than the number of subscriptions that they'd lose if they shut the PvP servers down tomorrow. And, realistically, a good portion of players would just go back to the PvE servers and wait for Darkfall to release.

The only "business decision" involved is that they just don't have the development time and resources to invest in making any major changes to the PvP servers. Its much more efficient for them to concentrate on the PvE community and just trickle down the changes to the PvP servers.

As for the fame system. The same blanket statements made about people who don't have titles or have low fame titles can be said about Title Whores as well.

1. High tiered Fameds suicide at the first sight of anyone who might be a challenge.

2. Low tiered Fameds farm newbs like a marijuana patch.

You want to see "whiners".. lose the fame system and make corpses lootable.. attunables and all. Twinks will leave the newbs alone cause there is nothing to gain from them. In fact, it will give newbs more motivation to group with each other hunt down twinks on "get rich quick" outings. XD And, suiciding at higher levels will finally be justified.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:29 PM  
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anything that discourages fighting is bad(in a sense). People sitting in immunity until their evac is up to protect their fame like you admitted to doing have no place on pvp. They should completely remove permaimmunity from the game, except in cities. Either remove evac or make all evac points the same and give absolutely no immunity after evacing. They should either remove fame or make it based off of kills. Fame decay from not pvping is the only form of fame loss. Run speed needs looked at too. Max incombat run speed for the majority of people is 40%. For 4-5 gold you can have 2 and a half hours of 55% out of combat run speed with jboots. Snares are pretty much a must for pvp which fucks a great deal of people.
I think a better solution would be for the Evac cooldown to simply not begin ticking down to usability again until the person leaves immunity.

As for movespeed, I'm sort of the mind that if you get attacked by another player, you should lose your movespeed just like they do. I'm pretty sure most classes get SOME kind of snare, stun, disable, evac, or otherwise that would let them fight defensively and get away. There's always sprint.
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Old 12-03-2007, 12:34 PM  
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No it wouldn't. The cost of maintenance for servers, accounts, etc. is far higher than the number of subscriptions that they'd lose if they shut the PvP servers down tomorrow. And, realistically, a good portion of players would just go back to the PvE servers and wait for Darkfall to release.
I'm not sure how you got 'shut down the PvP servers' from 'remove the fame system.'

Also Darkfall is vaporware and if it ever did get released it would suck harder than a black hole. Also only four people would play it -- the creator, the creator's brother, a chinese venture farmer from IGE, and you.
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Old 12-03-2007, 07:30 PM  
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LOl..the OP is the reason that PvP is in the state that it is.

I am not against level locking, I am not against damn near anything about the current system except zerging, immunity famewhores like this fool admits he is in his ultra pussy anon post.

Reminds me why I love PvP though. I like making prepubescent teens cry when I smoke their general with my slayer..Run less, worry less about your title and fight bitch..
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I think a better solution would be for the Evac cooldown to simply not begin ticking down to usability again until the person leaves immunity.

As for movespeed, I'm sort of the mind that if you get attacked by another player, you should lose your movespeed just like they do. I'm pretty sure most classes get SOME kind of snare, stun, disable, evac, or otherwise that would let them fight defensively and get away. There's always sprint.
Why should people who attack you get a free snare? This is a stupid idea. However, I don't think you should lose your runspeed just because you attack someone. Especially your in-combat runspeed. And, I don't think healing yourself or having your PVE ward absorb a PVP attack should automagically snare you and prevent you from zoning. It really makes PVP cheap and easy - for the ganker.
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