Popsi

not really.. because at 80 you dont need to either buy plat to get the gear, everyone has an equal opportunity and people know what to expect on PvP at lvl 80

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LFG

It's completely different. I can fight and win against some people ten levels higher than me in Tiers 5 to 8, that's all a part of leveling.

I think the level locker supporters just keep reusing this dumb knee jerk excuse because they lack better arguments.

EXACTLY DIFFERENT, Sir. A level 80 griefing me at 63 isn't going to cause me to quit. That's what the pussy T2 level lock squads were doing to the level 10 unequipped noobs, however.

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Odinn

I love all the hype you guys drum up about the twinks rolling island gear newbs. Almost as good as the anti-lockers saying pvp is dead.

Why wouldn't griefing make you quit at that lvl, as opposed to a low lvl? Because you have already invested the time in a character? I am sure there are people that quit at ANY lvl if they can't progress. I did originally at lvl 52 when pvp came out since I just couldn't get grps to lvl. I am trying to lvl a warlock, I am at 35...can't get grp, log in T2 toon to mess around.

You said you leveled fast, so how long were you in T2? Lots of experience on the scene there I bet....

Think about this too, if there are all those gank squads with titles running around T2, who else do you think they would have to fight...each other. Yes, that's right...they don't just run around farming noobs. They know the good pvp'ers on the opposite side, and believe you me, those crews are fighting each other...a lot. They want to take their titles and to raise theirs. So, they get a little status for killing lower lvls. IF they really are Fabled out, there is no reason to gank island noobs. They are locked...with their Fabled pvp gear at 20 already, now they just need higher titles. Destroyer and higher...

Top titles are not to be had by killing untitled players. Read the pvp rules, kthx.

You all need to know what you are talking about before you just start jumping on the bandwagon for anti level locking.

Most of the comments on this board seriously make me laugh because you have no idea what is/was really going on in T2.

Were some noobs getting ganked? ...sure, so isn't ANYONE that comes in contact with a full grp roaming CL. That will not change.

It is exactly the same...still. I have heard very very few times in 10-19 chat of people crying so much about twinks they were going to quit. And gawd noes that is a whiney bunch.

I call bullshit on the "know what to expect" line that I keep hearing. It is a PvP server, shouldn't they "know what to expect" when they create a character on a PvP server? They get nine levels to learn.

Don't...don't....don't....don't believe the HYPE - Flava Flav

big_fag

Riding the fence gets splinters in your vag.

Syous

So why force all tiers to be unlocked? As I've said several times before, I agree that locking needed to be fixed...just this fix screwed over mid level pvp who don't want to raid but still want to pvp.

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Fibs

I think the idea with PvP gear is so that dedicated PvP'ers are rewarded through PvP without having to raid for gear. In T8 there is (soon) almost a complete set available to all classes, including weapons, shields and jewelry. Takes a while to get all those tokens, but hopefully there should be no need to spend time in raiding instances.

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Syous

Yes, and it's a great idea however the PVP gear is mostly unattainable now unless you lock at 10 and don't do anything to XP except PVP, forcing you to not have AA.

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Mwink

Beautiful

Paikis

Uh.. you did actually READ his post right? You see the part where he says 'In T8...'

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LFG

My original request was never to force all tiers to unlock. I only asked for locking to be disabled before level 35. In my opinion, that would have fully solved the problem. I don't even think the solution implemented should have been applied to players above 35 or 40 at most.

The ONLY problem I objected to was well geared and mastered players preventing new players from getting started in the game. I've said dozens of times I have no problem at all with people locking in T4 and T5.

That's because lockers in T4 and up aren't completely blocking noobs from getting started in EQ2 PVP. I tried to get started several times on Nagafen before I was finally able to do it, and I quit several times, never getting past level 14 on an earlier attempt, because I was getting rolled every 2 to 5 minutes, nonfuckingstop, 24/7. It sucked so bad getting chain killed in treasured and no stat gear, when I didn't even have all equip slots filled, by fully MC/fabled/mastered toons. That was the farthest thing from fun for me, it was misery, not entertainment, because I didn't have the slightest chance of winning when attacked by anyone.

I think this problem was much worse in the FP zones than the Q zones, which is why many of you may not have experienced the same thing. It was fucking miserable, and what the T2 lockers were doing severely stunted the growth and success of EQ2 PVP. I think we could have even possibly had an expansion server by now if there had never been T2 and T3 locking.

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