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Old 12-20-2007, 05:47 PM  
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lawls... So what then, exactly, is the big draw to PVP, LFG? I mean, I know you're offering a plat for me to come reroll on Nagafen, and that's cool and all, but with all the whining you and others do about PVP, I fail to see exactly what I'm missing here in PVE land.

Griefing is griefing is griefing, no matter if it's EQ2, Halo, or any other game, but at least here in PVE loosing the mob is all I have to worry about.


I think what you're missing is, as someone said earlier, the passion. LFG is obviously having a blast on PvP. I actually agree with him on this one. Make a ten lvl cap. Some folks do it for faction, especially if they just came back from exile for example. Make the zones level appropriate for PvP, and I'd like to see one other rule to go along with it.

If the lvl cap is, say 8 for PvP, make that cap go BOTH WAYS. In that if I cant attack a toon 9 levels below me, they should not be able to attack me either. What happens when you do lvl caps that only work one way is you get these gangs of fags like Fantome, Malkov, or Chipie, who wait in complete safety for a solo player, or wait for others to become engaged in PvP and then they attack. The way it works now they can get tokens, fame, and gold from this tactic. Making the caps work both ways would solve this problem.
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You crying ass bitch, stfu, seriously. Your playing on a pvp server you stupid fuck, wtf did you expect. Heres an idea, why don't you move your tearing up ass to a diffrent location so those ppl dont know where your at. If you die in Sanctum move your ass to the back of bixie isle. If you die at bixie isle than go into the ravasect caves in BM. If you die there, go to Palace of the Awakened in BS. Go to nest if your not locked out. If you stand still, those same players are going to know where you are and keep coming back every 30 mintues to kill you - period. And if those players are like me, I would come back every time you leave immunity just cause I don't like you. The problem with pvp level range is it allows low levels to get numbers and pick their situations to jump into your fights. Their is nothing more aggravating then having a bunch of little fuckers who teeter right below the level limit, following you around that you cannot attack. Who then jump you as soon as you get into a fight. It's whiners like you who got Sinking Sands nerfed and forced all the pvp to be in fucking KoS. SS was the best pvp zone up until rok until players like your bluebie ass fucked it up.
Well, i see where Drytan still hangs out, isn't KoS boring by now doll?

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I think what you're missing is, as someone said earlier, the passion. LFG is obviously having a blast on PvP. I actually agree with him on this one. Make a ten lvl cap. Some folks do it for faction, especially if they just came back from exile for example. Make the zones level appropriate for PvP, and I'd like to see one other rule to go along with it.

If the lvl cap is, say 8 for PvP, make that cap go BOTH WAYS. In that if I cant attack a toon 9 levels below me, they should not be able to attack me either. What happens when you do lvl caps that only work one way is you get these gangs of fags like Fantome, Malkov, or Chipie, who wait in complete safety for a solo player, or wait for others to become engaged in PvP and then they attack. The way it works now they can get tokens, fame, and gold from this tactic. Making the caps work both ways would solve this problem.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that RoF specialty?

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I don't care what anyone thinks of me for posting this.

There are level 75 to 80 players griefing in KOS full time. They seem to spend 100% of their time killing players that are gray to them, and who have no chance at beating them in PVP.

Nothing is worse than spending an hour fighting to a mob in Sanctum to see a level 80 player that isn't agro to to any mobs run through zone and kill you for no benefit, just because they can and it is easy for them to do so.

These guys are obviously pussies, but they will continue being no skill pussies only so long as SOE allows them to be. I think SOE should help them regain their manhood by implementing a 10 level limit for PVP in KOS. I cannot believe this game was intended to be played in a manner where level 80s can spend their entire EQ2 playtime killing players 20 levels below them in content that's now 2 expansions old.

And for the idiots who will next post, "see, this is just like T2 level locking!". No, those two things don't have a fucking thing to do with each other. T2 level locking PREVENTS people from ever getting started in the game, by encouraging level 14s to permanently play by only killing fresh off the island, ungeared level 10s.

The situation in KOS is that players with a 20 level advantage will grief you nonstop when you can't even hit them or land spells on them. The mobs aren't agro to them, so none of the usual environmental limitations in PVP apply. These higher levels shouldn't be able to kill gray players exping in level appropriate zones by running through mobs they'd ordinarily have to fight through.

I'm only suggesting one change, and that's to make the PVP limit 10 levels in KOS, instead of 20 levels between the current cap and the beginning level intended for those zones.

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Yes it's a shame theres idiots out there who dwell in a grey leveling zone, makes me not wanna go to Barren Sky on my lock now But, now i know where all the pvp is, yay!
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Old 12-21-2007, 12:57 AM  
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mmm i haven't been to kos since the 70 bots turned gray = p

But hell maybe I have collected over 1000 tokens so far by killing grays in kos all day. Because that would make alot of sense

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Old 12-22-2007, 01:09 AM  
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I think what you're missing is, as someone said earlier, the passion. LFG is obviously having a blast on PvP. I actually agree with him on this one. Make a ten lvl cap. Some folks do it for faction, especially if they just came back from exile for example. Make the zones level appropriate for PvP, and I'd like to see one other rule to go along with it.

If the lvl cap is, say 8 for PvP, make that cap go BOTH WAYS. In that if I cant attack a toon 9 levels below me, they should not be able to attack me either. What happens when you do lvl caps that only work one way is you get these gangs of fags like Fantome, Malkov, or Chipie, who wait in complete safety for a solo player, or wait for others to become engaged in PvP and then they attack. The way it works now they can get tokens, fame, and gold from this tactic. Making the caps work both ways would solve this problem.
Imagine if you thought that when you were locked in t5.
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Old 12-30-2007, 03:19 PM  
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You crying ass bitch, stfu, seriously. Your playing on a pvp server you stupid fuck, wtf did you expect. Heres an idea, why don't you move your tearing up ass to a diffrent location so those ppl dont know where your at. If you die in Sanctum move your ass to the back of bixie isle. If you die at bixie isle than go into the ravasect caves in BM. If you die there, go to Palace of the Awakened in BS. Go to nest if your not locked out. If you stand still, those same players are going to know where you are and keep coming back every 30 mintues to kill you - period. And if those players are like me, I would come back every time you leave immunity just cause I don't like you. The problem with pvp level range is it allows low levels to get numbers and pick their situations to jump into your fights. Their is nothing more aggravating then having a bunch of little fuckers who teeter right below the level limit, following you around that you cannot attack. Who then jump you as soon as you get into a fight. It's whiners like you who got Sinking Sands nerfed and forced all the pvp to be in fucking KoS. SS was the best pvp zone up until rok until players like your bluebie ass fucked it up.

i have top agree with Drytan on the SS thing...imo there should NOT be lvl limits in any zones except t1-t2 and that should be 5 lvl gap....it is damn BS leeching ass greys can sit back and jump red cons after they are fighting....either remove damn lvl caps on pvp or make is so if your also below the lvl cap you cant jump in on higher lvl fights to leech fame.....easy fix right there...if red cons cant atk greys...then greys shouldnt be able to atk red cons...
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Old 12-30-2007, 07:32 PM  
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I haven't dealt with THAT, but that makes sense to limit it. I don't want to step foot into KoS for a while (I am sick sick sick of it,) but if you're higher-leveled and you want to troll lower-leveled people over and over, come find me somewhere in RoK! Leave the gray-cons alone, plz.

If I do return to KoS soon, it'll be for finishing old quests and shit. I generally ignore gray-conning people unless they so decide to attack me. :>
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Sounds like some people are sad that they are getting owned by grays.....
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Old 12-31-2007, 11:42 AM  
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If the lvl cap is, say 8 for PvP, make that cap go BOTH WAYS.
I have to agree with this, it should go both ways.

I was fighting an orange warden at the KP docks yesterday, and felt like I was winning (I was level 72), when suddenly a hoard of gray 60's jumped in and owned the warden I was fighting. I mean seriously, it was like a fucking plague of locusts out of the Bible. I got kill credit and all, but I would have rather won that fight all by myself.

And the little bastards even looted my chest. How is it that other people can loot the chest you earned in PVP?
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I have to agree with this, it should go both ways.

I was fighting an orange warden at the KP docks yesterday, and felt like I was winning (I was level 72), when suddenly a hoard of gray 60's jumped in and owned the warden I was fighting. I mean seriously, it was like a fucking plague of locusts out of the Bible. I got kill credit and all, but I would have rather won that fight all by myself.

And the little bastards even looted my chest. How is it that other people can loot the chest you earned in PVP?
That seems to be an issue too. Sometimes I loot chests that aren't mine (note for some of you: I DO GET KILLS SOMETIMES LOL!) and I feel bad. Perhaps the person that got the first hit or last hit should be allowed loot rights to the chests dropped by players?
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I actually think this will happen regardless of how people feel about it. It fits the pattern of how SOE has handled zones with previously unlimited PvP after an expansion adds new levels. i.e. The same way DoF used to be unlimited and was changed, KoS will also have a more reasonable limit. Not necessarily 10 but probably around that ballpark. It's just a matter of time.
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