Sabien

No doubt, but why not make Focus Aim a long recast in pvp. Its not like a lot of rangers are going to evac when Focus Aim is down. I am down with making it a longer recast in pvp, but ffs don't take it away. Should make En Guarde/Inspiration longer recast in pvp as well.

That goes back to the Focus Aim. The old days I could burn an sk with Aim and CA's because normally your damage ward couldnt keep up with the damage. Now? All an sk has to do is watch while a ranger kills themselves while your ward is up.

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aeeron

you havnt met a rigid scale bow yet tbh

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Ya, I'm still in the part of the food chain where it's mostly noobs with mastercrafted fighting other noobs with mastercrafted.

One of the hardest classes for me to beat is wizard. That manashield owns me, very difficult fights, it's gotten to the point where I just as soon run if I get attacked by a wizard even con or higher.

Now that I think of it, all this class advantage/weakness stuff reminds me of rock-paper-scissors.

Some classes just do better or are weaker against other classes. Maybe that's supposed to be part of class balance - that no class can own every other class, and many have a distinct weakness against another specific class.

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Amatheon

To all the folks talking about root believe me I use it but swashbucklers can hit you from range with their melee attacks. Also you guys heard of potions? They pop a potion and they are on the move again. This is a typical fight against a swashbuckler for me. I root, and while I am casting my 2+ second root they toss two snares on me. They hit a potion as I am moving to max nuke range to get away from reach. I snare but their two snares still make me slower than them. There is not time with them hitting you from reach to cure the snares, cast heals and damage them. Pheelin I am sure you did amazing things in a group fight, i am outstanding in groups fights but for as quick as our heals our we cannot outheal a equal level swashbuckler. It just does not happen. You say get past their burst dps. I fought a swash the other day with a heal specced warden and he kept 800 + dps for over 2 minutes in a pvp fight. When exactly did the burst end? Now I agree fury's can be overpowered in certain fights. Fury's are not the number 2 class by a longshot though. You would have to play a fury to know I guess.

Jayn thanks for saying what you did its pretty much what I am trying to say albeit a bit more defensively.

Nihlathak your a swash what can I expect. Its not about being killed its about having a chance in pvp against everyone. There needs to be more balance. If it were up to me these are the changes I would like to make and I don't think they are that oulandish. If someone cures something remove their immunity from whatever it is they cured. So if swash takes my root off let me root him again right away and also get rid of the reuse time on my root if its cured so I can use it again right away. Secondly get rid of reach it simply makes no sense from any perspective or at the very least let me use a potion to deny it. Thirdly make resisting melee in pvp viable for classes other than avoidance classes like monks or bruisers.

If their are other fury's out there that are having np with swashbucklers then I am glad to be proven wrong honestly I am. If its a mistake I am making then so be it I will admit to sucking or being an idiot np.

Zacii

Amatheon, we cannot autoattack with reach, it only works with ca's. We are a tad op, and could use some tuning but I really am not complaining. Swash's are almost designated druid killers, if you are good its almost to easy if they arent super. On a side note.....

i m swashbukla i win eq2~

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Zacii its not like your ca's are slouches for dps lol I could care less if your regular melee cannot be used. You can keep the pressure on while closing the gap to get in regular melee range.

Paikis

Swashbucklers are by far the most overpowered class and have been for a long time. (atleast in T7/T8) Having said that, they aren't unbeatable... try different things.

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Daimyo

It's all about: -

1. Class vs class (paper, scissor, stone)
2. Your gear/AA
3. Your clickies
4. Your pvp experience and knowledge of your class/their class

As an assassin coming against a swash I have no problems as some other have stated, because my class has some unquie tricks to beat them, as do SK's and I expect brawlers.

They seem to be EZ-mode (FOTM or whatever) atm, but i'd say if you get beat continually then revise your strats and see points 2-4 or simply find a group.

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Dankshasta

You can't really hope to root a swashy and get out of REACH range. They have also 3 snares. I gotta agree with the OP, swashies are ridiculous in PvP.Yes they can be beaten, but at the same time wth thier inherent scout abilites, coupled to the swashie skills, they are seriously unbalanced. When a swashie kills you in a one vone, don't sweat it, they probably suck at the game and can only find success on that one class. There is a reason that 5 billion swashies exist on Nagafen, and yes they are a joke.

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Daimyo

IMO it's so hard to fully balance a class

Maybe the developers need to check out swash with all the new gear/changes and extra AA and consider whether they now have a little too much potential.

One thing I do know though, against certain classes, the swash are trivial to beat due to their class mechanic.

The fact that every one and their dog has a swash doesn't help the situation as you will confront a swash far more often than say a templar (esp. in solo pvp).

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