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    Default You call this Balanced PvP?

    Can you PLEASE explain Why it is possible for ANY class to be able to KILL someone IN less than 15 Seconds! Brigands, Assasins, and Swashbuckler are the prime culprits.
    These classes can all stealth, and TRACK YOU DOWN.. wear a cat totem then? OK, but I still cannot see thru Rocks, Trees, Hills, Cliffs, Bridges, Walls, etc. Even if you do corner one they can Evac away from harm, and there is nothing most classes can do to stop that. Evac is Down? Well, except other scouts and casters, the rest of us cant keep them from just running away, we cant snare THEM for 80% or Root them for more than 3 seconds...
    As far as me, I cant outrun them anymore( TY CHOKIDAI ). Subsequently, once I am attacked, I Cant Run (because I am snared for more than I can run Out of combat) nor can I Evac(Mystic). And NOW I cant even Cure myself and Run, I get put into Combat when I cure. So I am stuck fighting** read: DYING. The fight NORMALLY lasts all of 15 SECONDS, sometimes I can get it to last 30 seconds, but that is only when I cast my two 15 min recast emergency wards. 19 out of20 times I am dead. I AM NOT EXAGGERATING HERE PEOPLE!!!!
    ====The following is a explaination of how I get slaughtered.====

    So Heal yourself you say? Easy to say, MUCH harder to DO! To start, I am stunned for the 1st 1/2 to 3/4's of my Health<unless I use a stun potion, then its only 1/4>. Next, My heal takes 2 seconds to cast and heals(wards) for 1800, seems fast right? Not really, especially when u get interupted and have to start over 2-3 con secutive times. Or how about the fact thay can get 2-5 combat arts off in that SAME time frame. Not including the fact they AUTO ATTACK for 400-900 damage 2 times a second, or those 3 combat arts do 700-2000 damage. Ok, the heal is now nullified. Maybe Cure those 7 impairments on you? No, thats 1 second cast time AND a 10 second F%@king recast.(BTW, dont forget those interupts, they are STILL happening even with MAX+15 Focus) PLEASE, keep in mind this is NOT a Rare occurance... this HAPPENS EVERY TIME!!!!
    Let me isert here a list of Brigand attacks .... all are Adept 1 or lower.. AD3 version will be accordingly stronger. These are all pvp dmg ratios
    Adept 1
    Offensive Stance: 5.9 times a min procs interrupt and 127 dmg (assorted increases to offensive abilities)
    Roughen: 1/2 sec cast time: decreases agi 73 def 28 {Duration 36 sec
    Clock: 1/2 sec cast time: 700-1100 damage root target and face same dir as caster {Duration 6 sec
    ROB: 1/2 sec cast time: 650-1000 damage decrease STR 73 {Duration 20 sec
    Blood rake: 1/2 sec cast time: 700-1100 damage dec target mit vs all magic by 1k(heat,cold,div,dis,poi,mag,men){Duration 72 sec
    Holdup: 1/2 sec cast time: 54% snare{Duration 6 sec
    Stunning blow: 1/2 sec cast time: 600-1000 damage Stuns target{Duration 2 sec
    Double throw: 1 sec cast time: ranged attack: 400-550, and 300-450 If both hit target is stunned 2 seconds (they usually both hit)
    Apprentice 4
    Dispatched: 1/2 sec cast time: 650-1000 damage, decrease resistances to all by 1100{Duration 13 sec
    Enfeeblement: 1/2 sec cast time: 700-1100 damage, decrease mit by 800(crush,slash,pierce){Duration 72 sec
    Remiss: 1/2 sec cast time: 600-900 damage, decrease parry by 47{Duration 36 sec
    Entangle: 1 sec cast time: 58% snare, that resnares once broken for a short time{Duration 23 sec
    As you can see... they can do an incredible amount of damage in even 2 seconds.. o and dont forget Double up

    OK lets Talk about MY offensive abilities...
    Chilling strike: 1/2 sec cast: 900 dmg snare 46%{Duration 10 sec
    Feverish Strike: 1/2 sec cast: 335 dmg instantly and every 4 secs{ Total dmg=1005 over 12 sec
    Glacial Strike: 1/2 sec cast: 550-600 damage Instantly and 350 damage every 4 sec{Total dmg = 1950-2000 over 16 sec
    Circle of the Ancients: 1 sec cast: 1300 AOE dmg (blue)
    Oh, and I Auto attack for 380** WOW **
    Vs their Average Combat art of 600-1400 and their 300-800 dmg Auto attack. And lets not forget the Double Up's and Decapitates doing 3-4k EACH (remember I explained why I cant keep up with heals)

    How about MY Debuffs, They are GOOD Strong Debuffs arent they?(Yes, I will concede they ARE good) But wait, they ALSO take 2 F#@king seconds to Cast, Once again the scout can get 3-4 off in that SAME time frame.. EACH of which is As stong as my ONE debuff... If that wasnt all.. INTERUPTS, Once again.. the Bane of my existence. And If I FINALLY get the spell Casted?!? Wham... Resisted.. poor me.. Another Master 1 spell resisted... Funny, that I dont resist THEIR attack or debuffs... At least not NEAR the rate they resist MINE!
    There is more to say, but my time is up.. will post more later

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    Default Re: You call this Balanced PvP?

    Quote Originally Posted by -Winterwulf- View Post
    I'm gay and can't PVP at all, halp!
    This is Nagafen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Otis View Post
    Mod Vinyard,

    Admin Otis here. I don't do mod wars, see you in three days.

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    Default Re: You call this Balanced PvP?

    I'm a mage and I wish scouts would attack me, the little fame whores just keep running.
    I remember when we invented camp/run/camp/run/camp with immunity to make it to contested!

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    Default Re: You call this Balanced PvP?

    did someone just do a side by side comparison of Brigand vs Mystic offensive abilities?

    i.... feel... time... coming... to.... a.... standstill....

    universe.... might.... be.... imploding.....

    nnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooooo..................... ....................................

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    Default Re: You call this Balanced PvP?

    Mystic is perfectly viable - you just need to gear appropriately.

    You can crank your avoidance way up, which will help, and load up with reactive-stun/stifle/daze gear, so that when you ARE hit, you buy yourself that 2-3 second window you need to ward yourself again.

    Like most healers, you may not kill your foe (as he runs away), but you should be able to chase them off. You *do* have the advantage of combat-arts - short cast, less frequently interupted, and a bigger burst damage potential.

    You are one of the weaker pvp healers, but that doesn't mean that assassins/swashies will kill you in 15s - or at all.

    There are a few very deadly opponents - Brigands can strip your buffs and wards in one fell swoop with a double-up'd taunt (nasty)

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    Default Re: You call this Balanced PvP?

    if you want some tips on mystic PvP, talk to Dejaana... it's about a 50/50 fight with me (brig) vs him, and its always a challenge regardless.

    you just need to know how to utilize every ability you have to disrupt or defend. timing is key. armor choice is key.

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    Default Re: You call this Balanced PvP?

    Ok first, Orochan, very constructive post.. that was helpful.
    Grow up please.


    I feel your pain Syous, though there is some connection with my post, I dont believe it quite pertains to the soul of the post.

    They can strip my Wards?!? That, I did not know. And IMHO should not be allowed.. buff yea, But not heals. I have a full set of gear that has DS procs.. but i will attempt to fill more slots in with reactive stun, stifle procs.. have you any items in mind you could link? Thank you for your constructive post Istaril.. it is appreciated.


    Firamas, thank you for the second post.. the 1st one wasnt very helpful, and made little sense. And it was less a Offensive vs offensive comparison as a Massive offensive vs a defense that I cannot mount due to the problems I stated above.
    However I will look into talking to this Dejaana. My best abilities for avoiding are on very high recast timers =(. Like emergency wards (15 min recast) and deaggro(5 min recast). I guess my #1 main issue is with the interupts, Maybe an immune to interrupt timer would be good.. I dont know what else i can do about that though... even my immunities buff doesn't make me immune to interupts.

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    Default Re: You call this Balanced PvP?

    lol, the even funnier part is that I can fully strip wards from shamans and reactives from clerics every 6 seconds with AA's in my taunt.

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    Default Re: You call this Balanced PvP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zacii View Post
    lol, the even funnier part is that I can fully strip wards from shamans and reactives from clerics every 6 seconds with AA's in my taunt.
    What's even funnier is when I land at a sokokar post and get immediately attacked, and then hit AE fear and leisurely choose my next travel destination or zone because that doesn't put me into combat and the person or group doesn't carry potions.

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    Default Re: You call this Balanced PvP?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orochan View Post
    This is Nagafen.
    lol

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