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Old 12-28-2007, 06:25 AM  
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Default Re: Small players explioting line of sight.

Simple fix: Change the apperance of the character when shrunken but retain the paperdoll of the player as they would be non-shrunken.
the problem in reality is that when a player shrinks it shrinks their entire form, every layer. While this is neat it also breaks previously working mechanics by use of small forms + shrink items.
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Old 12-28-2007, 11:04 AM  
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Default Re: Small players explioting line of sight.

I'm not an expert on EQ2 game mechanics, but I believe that would screw up the collision code. Example, you go up to a flight of stairs, they are bigger than you, but since you retain the larger model while still being small then you run up the stairs flawlessly instead of having to jump up each stair.
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Old 12-28-2007, 12:52 PM  
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Yep I never pvp you got me there...

My argument is it isn't the issue with being small, don't remove shrink. Fix the Z-axis when it comes to line of sight and targeting.
Yeah, I'm sure it's the Z-axis preventing me from tab targetting a shrunken player in an open plain. GG Tranny. Hint: Spend less time acting female and talking to women about periods and more time PvPing, so you know what's going on~
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Old 12-28-2007, 01:38 PM  
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Default Re: Small players explioting line of sight.

Just remove it. I am not a roleplayer but for fuck's sake, what is up with all of these illusions/shrinks? I mean you pick a small race fine I get it, you get the advantage of that small race, but to take it even further and shrink past the size of a rock? Give me a fucking break. For PvP servers, it should be the second you engage in PvP combat, all illusions/size change items should be turned off.

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Old 12-28-2007, 03:12 PM  
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Just remove it. I am not a roleplayer but for fuck's sake, what is up with all of these illusions/shrinks? I mean you pick a small race fine I get it, you get the advantage of that small race, but to take it even further and shrink past the size of a rock? Give me a fucking break. For PvP servers, it should be the second you engage in PvP combat, all illusions/size change items should be turned off.

fixed, next!
agreed the fix would be that simple
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Old 12-29-2007, 07:47 AM  
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I've had people able to attack me just fine.

How about instead of people bitching for something to be removed how about you bitch to have it fixed. By fixed I mean finding out the problem that causes it. Person is too small to see, ok lets find the coding that is fucking up LoS .
A) Fix the Problem with LoS issues

B) Nerf all shrink items.

Let's pretend for a minute we are in charge of the SOE dev team. To get into character stop pretending you give a shit about the players so long as they keep their subscriptions. Your entire job is maintain the bottom line for SOE. Do you...

A) Pay the devs by the hour for hours and hours of work that would have to go into fixing los issues

B) Fuck it, just nerf shrink items to shut people up.
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:50 AM  
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Just remove it. I am not a roleplayer but for fuck's sake, what is up with all of these illusions/shrinks? I mean you pick a small race fine I get it, you get the advantage of that small race, but to take it even further and shrink past the size of a rock? Give me a fucking break. For PvP servers, it should be the second you engage in PvP combat, all illusions/size change items should be turned off.

fixed, next!
I like being a ratonga when I PVP though.

As far as the "just remove it" attitude, I agree it would be an effective and easy fix to this current problem, but I think it'd be a slap in the face to the people who earned 4 year rewards first of all, and also I think they'd have to reimburse people for their LoN cloaks if they made them non-useable on the PvP servers.
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Old 12-29-2007, 08:51 AM  
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"B) Fuck it, just nerf shrink items to shut people up. "

And to get around the whole people deserve what other servers get, just make the nerf effective when engaged in PvP

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Old 12-29-2007, 08:55 AM  
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"B) Fuck it, just nerf shrink items to shut people up. "

And to get around the whole people deserve what other servers get, just make the nerf effective when engaged in PvP
They could.. Um.. Just make their fucking shit work properly. How about that?
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Old 12-29-2007, 11:11 PM  
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Default Re: Small players explioting line of sight.

Or make it so you only look shrunken on your client!
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