Small players explioting line of sight.

Ballads · 12-23-2007, 12:07 AM

I think they need to remove all shrinking effects from pvp. All it takes is cat totem + shrink cloak and your so small that you can be out of los standing behind a pebble. I lost los today as a person with this hid behind the lip of a corner on the dregs docks. I was up on the same level as him but he just ran around the corner and got under the lip forcing me to run right on top of him to see him, putting me back in melee range. They get so small you cant see them coming until they are right in your face. Its like the new stealth and needs to be looked into.

LFG · 12-23-2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ballads

I think they need to remove all shrinking effects from pvp. All it takes is cat totem + shrink cloak and your so small that you can be out of los standing behind a pebble. I lost los today as a person with this hid behind the lip of a corner on the dregs docks. I was up on the same level as him but he just ran around the corner and got under the lip forcing me to run right on top of him to see him, putting me back in melee range. They get so small you cant see them coming until they are right in your face. Its like the new stealth and needs to be looked into.

I must admit, when two boxing with my DE SK and Gnome healer (my Gnome is shrunk to min size with the 4 year Billy reward with illusions turned off), I can stand on top of my Gnome and cover him completely. He's gotta be almost impossible to target like that.

Miroh · 12-23-2007, 05:30 AM

I've had people able to attack me just fine.

How about instead of people bitching for something to be removed how about you bitch to have it fixed. By fixed I mean finding out the problem that causes it. Person is too small to see, ok lets find the coding that is fucking up LoS .

Cunk · 12-23-2007, 08:51 AM

when they have 30thing who can shring then that suck but only 40% like i use people dont have any problem targeting me and finding me

Darkhain · 12-23-2007, 12:04 PM

Shrink should be removed from pvp, too hard to target, even with next pvp target hotkey.

Nihlathak · 12-23-2007, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Miroh

I've had people able to attack me just fine.

How about instead of people bitching for something to be removed how about you bitch to have it fixed. By fixed I mean finding out the problem that causes it. Person is too small to see, ok lets find the coding that is fucking up LoS .

This is the better (albeit more unlikely as it requires more work) answer. Rather than removing the 4 year reward and LoN card effects from PvP servers, simply make it so that pvp target keys and LoS work correctly on shrunken characters.

Advantages like size should only be advantages in intelligence ( meaning players who aren't intelligent enough to use target keys, etc. ) and never actual mechanics.

In a perfect world, anway.

dakkota · 12-23-2007, 02:55 PM

Or make it like most FPS games where despite your size you have a 'hitbox'. In a MMO's case it would be a 'clickbox'.

Bet all supporters of this played Oddjob in N64 007, that cheat of a character.

Miroh · 12-23-2007, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Marou

Advantages like size should only be advantages in intelligence ( meaning players who aren't intelligent enough to use target keys, etc. ) and never actual mechanics.

In a perfect world, anway.

No matter what is said people will still bitch and moan about something.

Ballads · 12-23-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Marou

This is the better (albeit more unlikely as it requires more work) answer. Rather than removing the 4 year reward and LoN card effects from PvP servers, simply make it so that pvp target keys and LoS work correctly on shrunken characters.

Advantages like size should only be advantages in intelligence ( meaning players who aren't intelligent enough to use target keys, etc. ) and never actual mechanics.

In a perfect world, anway.

Exactly it effects how far away next/previous pvp target works as well.

Pett · 12-24-2007, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Ballads

Exactly it effects how far away next/previous pvp target works as well.

I was just about to make a thread about this single issue when I noticed this thread already up.

They just need to fix the targetting of shrunken players. They can keep the sneaking advantage... But allow me to target you. I guess the whole "tab targetting" issue comes into play when the shrunken player's name does not even render on the screen until you're on top of the person -- You can't Tab a name you can't see.

It's just not right that you can Tab target Rhinos 100m away, but you can't Tab target a player 15m away at the same instant.