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    Default Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER

    Quote Originally Posted by Kruhl View Post
    I'll call bullshit on this right now. I raided in exile long enough to know the type of gear that goes around, at least within the Kraken.
    In EOF, or in ROK?

    I've been raiding a month solid, averaging 6 nights a week of actual raiding, and have 2 raid fabled items. The shit is not flowing like mana from heaven as it has in past expansions. Much of what drops is unusable by anyone, e.g., tons of gear that is scout only or tank only and repeatedly drops so nobody can use it among the limited classes that can use it. My situation is not uncommon among people who've been raiding ROK from the beginning, and have cleared VP every time it's been open since Dec - Jan (until LU 42, that is).

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    Default Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER

    Quote Originally Posted by Kruhl View Post
    I'll call bullshit on this right now. I raided in exile long enough to know the type of gear that goes around, at least within the Kraken.

    I assure you there's quite a few people in both the Kraken and Onyx with fully fabled raid gear, or close to it. If it's not VP gear, it's from another high end raid zone, and most assuredly has bad ass stats. The only reason why VP gear might be limited at this point is because of the revamp on some of the dragons. As soon as those dragons go down, which will be soon, the VP gear will be flowing like water.

    But compare the average high end exile raiders gear with the average freeport raider, and there usually is no comparison. And it's FAR greater than just 300 hitpoints.
    I have probably more high end gear from raids, due to being able to raid basically every night, than most havenites. So I should qualify as someone with full fabled t8 gear right? That's your theory?

    Head-collection
    Cloak-quest
    Chest-T7 fabled(does that even count?)
    Shoulders-vp set
    Forearms- Instance stuff
    Gloves-x2 drop
    Waist- faction item
    Legs- T7 fabled
    Boots- T7 fabled
    Neck- quest
    Ear1- instance drop
    Ear2- quest reward
    Ring1- T7 fabled
    Ring2- VP drop
    Wrist1- T1 fabled(anyone can get it)
    Wrist2- quest reward
    Weapon1- heroic epic
    Weapon2- VP drop, but on par with items from T1 and T2.
    Bow- T7

    So there you have it. 3 pieces of VP loot, and that's someone that's made damn near every raid possible. The upgrades simply just do not drop like you think they do. Faction guilds can and are clearing at least some of T2 now. With collections, quests, legendary gear, and some mixed in T7 loot, yes you too can have 90% of an end game raiders loot! Go kill some folks, and get pvp gear too!

    You really are quite insane if you think the gap in gear is that large. The loot from VP simply doesn't flow like water, it drips out like a leaky faucet. And there simply is _NOT_ another high end raid zone that gives some magic advantage in gear. VS drops 1 item(sometimes a shitty set piece too) a week, Leviathan drops 1 item a week, sometimes great, sometimes not. And those mobs aren't even that hard, they just have a much higher learning curve skillwise than say, Pawbuster.

    If your average Freeport raider is incapable of clearing T1, doing quest, collections, factions, and T7, they have no right to bitch about VP loot.

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    Default Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER

    It's easy for people to convince themselves something is true if they have no idea what they're talking about to begin with.

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    Default Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER

    Quote Originally Posted by Broncas View Post
    It's easy for people to convince themselves something is true if they have no idea what they're talking about to begin with.

    Be honest, you read that off a fortune cookie last night.

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    Default Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER

    I'd love to open a fortune cookie and have it just say:

    Broncas.

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    Default Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER

    I might die of laughter if that happened.

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    Default Re: EPIC Weapon quests makes EXILE look a whole lot SWEETER

    So do these city faction folk understand that many melee classes (at least scouts) are wearing most of this VP set gear in an APPEARANCE slot and only elect to use them on raids for certain specific set bonuses (the brigand 5 set +duration to dispatch comes to mind)?

    For PvP purposes, the procs and reactive effects (damage, control effects, etc) that are tied to the legendary T8 gear are simply better. I have a macro to swap out most of my shiny T8 fabled stuff for this legendary crap when I PvP. Admittedly, I don't PvP that much anymore, but even when I do I'm not wearing crazy amounts of VP gear like some people think. =)

    If you're in a guild that can clear T1/2 RoK raid instances, you already have access to 99% of the loot that you'll ever really want for PvP purposes. PvP gear and T8 legendary/heroic shit is simply better in many cases. And if you're really jonesing for a few extra HP instead of some reactive effect or proc, the PvP armor is almost identical to the VP set gear and is obtainable without all the baggage of a hardcore raid guild.

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