Auto Attack in PVP - Page 3

firamas · 01-02-2008, 01:40 PM

alrighty, didnt know you guys got a bow in VP, whatever. i was just playing the odds when i made that statement. kraken hasn't had any yet.

regardless, they're worthless until ammo mechanics are fixed. and casters got plenty of toys (33% dispersion is fucking BROKEN and needs to be nerfed), so i dont want to hear any crying.

JimmyKudo · 01-02-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by firamas

alrighty, didnt know you guys got a bow in VP, whatever. i was just playing the odds when i made that statement. kraken hasn't had any yet.

regardless, they're worthless until ammo mechanics are fixed. and casters got plenty of toys (33% dispersion is fucking BROKEN and needs to be nerfed), so i dont want to hear any crying.

It doesn't need to be nerfed, it gives them a fair chance. The only caster thats remotely hard is a warlock.

firamas · 01-02-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyKudo

It doesn't need to be nerfed, it gives them a fair chance. The only caster thats remotely hard is a warlock.

it might be a "fair chance" 1v1 (i'd argue that they still don't need it, but w/e). however, in group PvP it is sickenly overpowered. with the right group setup the dispersion proc rate will easily be over 50%.

the PvP dynamics have been balanced around group vs group fights... dispersion gear amplified by +proc rate buffs turns casters like warlocks, who were already very strong in their role in group PvP, into fucking demigods.

Soulja · 01-02-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by firamas

alrighty, didnt know you guys got a bow in VP, whatever. i was just playing the odds when i made that statement. kraken hasn't had any yet.

regardless, they're worthless until ammo mechanics are fixed. and casters got plenty of toys (33% dispersion is fucking BROKEN and needs to be nerfed), so i dont want to hear any crying.

Not really worthless, unless you have a Rigid Scale bow, Star Darkened, or Tunares wrath, most if not all of them are still better than everything else even with the current ammo system. Its just useless for me because I do have RSB. Once they fix ammo its probably going to be at least a week or two of ridiculous auto attacks before they decide to nerf something again.

Dankshasta · 01-02-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Borias

Thx Become for typing out a response that had probably more words than the entire thread put together.

And you are incorrect, raid T8 bows have dropped already.

Those are the two Become trademarks. 1) being wrong, and 2) using far too many words to do so

guy01 · 01-03-2008, 12:17 AM

It's amazing what people find to whine about. Really is. Here's some advice that should really help.

STFU and stop crying.

You'll be alot happier.

Won't have so many people thinking you're just some little crybaby.

Ratface · 01-03-2008, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by nisox

Considering that after you land a mezz on him, you pretty much win if you know what you are doing.

Consider it's a ranger and he can pop a root immunity, back up and auto attack you to death with ranged.. yeah.

You're a dumbass, gtfo. Coercer isn't illusionist.

Dakis · 01-03-2008, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by firamas

nothing dramatic changed with the mechanics of the game from pre-ROK to post-ROK. that ranger in the screenshot (kriptick) is using exactly the same bow (Rigid Scale) that he had before... and oh, btw, even if he had a fabled T8 bow from Veeshan's Peak, it'd actually be equivalent or worse than the Rigid Scale since the mechanics of ammo are so fucked up right now (read ranger boards for more detail).

there are no legendary RoK bows that are better than the fabled stuff rangers were using in T7, and no fabled T8 bows have dropped on the server yet.

melee scouts have seen a slight increase in the DR of their weapons that is commensurate with a higher tier... from ~85 DR on fabled T7 to ~100 DR on fabled T8. your HP should have increased by an equal amount to this.

what you're seeing is a lot more people with weapons that have high top end damage. the PvP weps in T7 were shit compared to the raid weapons, and there weren't that many scouts on the server running around with those. now there are legendary weapons (i.e. jarsath shortsword) that while technically are not a whole lot better than T7 fabled for, say, zonewide DPS parses, they still have a high top end damage because they are extremely slow weapons. and when scouts move towards the 4.0 and 4.5 sec delay weapons, of course the top end dmg has to be increased so the DR works out right.

however, keep in mind that you're getting hit less often -- just for higher dmg each hit. a lot of the PvPing rogues have probably specced back to the fencer (single weapon double attack) line now, since they can't easily get their hands on two fantastic RoK weapons so they get the tokens to score their one sweet weapon and use it as a double-attacker.

bottom line: quitcherbitchen. mages got plenty of great upgrades through their T8 gear too.

Stfu you have no say in anything even remotely close to being related to PvP... nice 3,365 kills lolollolol.

Pett · 01-03-2008, 05:37 AM

Become won't even fight Cleveland -- quest geared noob brigand, and instead changes subjects to avoid fighting like he's done for his 78 days played on Become. I do wonder how he even hit 3k kills with how much he talks about PvP...

acoloss · 01-03-2008, 08:14 AM

i hate kriptick the leaching prick btw

but, Azuresongx, how can u complain about a rangers autoattack, when u use pets which one shot people??

all that needs to be done is FIX the Vessel and Mischief Maker in pvp... so they don't work .. cus, atm, it's stopped me wanting to solo