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01-29-2008, 12:14 PM
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Re: Overpowered stoneskin needs changing - badly
I don't have the numbers on me atm, but there is a few tables in circulation showing T7 bows with T7 ammo doing more damage than the T8 legendary/Fabled and T7 ammo.
RSB tho FTW ... nothing compares yet which is sad..
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The daimyo (大名, daimyō) were the most powerful feudal rulers from the 10th century to the 19th century in Japan. From the shugo of the muromachi period through the sengoku to the daimyo of the Edo period, the rank had a long and varied history. It was usually, though not exclusively, from these warlords that a shogun arose.
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01-29-2008, 12:38 PM
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Re: Overpowered stoneskin needs changing - badly
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Originally Posted by Pinski
Actually, there is no way you can out-parse somebody with a Rigid Scale Bow if you both have the same buffs and gear other than the bow(provided you both are of equal skill level). And people saying T7 bow are dumb, Rigid Scale Bow is the only Bow that matters, not T7 bows, but Rigid Scale Bow.
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Right, but not many on Venekor have the Rigid Scale bow. I didn't have any of the raid bows.
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01-29-2008, 12:39 PM
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Re: Overpowered stoneskin needs changing - badly
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Originally Posted by Daimyo
I don't have the numbers on me atm, but there is a few tables in circulation showing T7 bows with T7 ammo doing more damage than the T8 legendary/Fabled and T7 ammo.
RSB tho FTW ... nothing compares yet which is sad..
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If I had the Rigid Scale Bow, I'd be using it.
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01-30-2008, 08:51 AM
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Re: Overpowered stoneskin needs changing - badly
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Originally Posted by Demron
If I had the Rigid Scale Bow, I'd be using it.
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Stop de-railing.. most of your posts should be in a blog or facebook tbh /yawn..
1+1=2
MS + dispersion = OP
Easy to see
~Daimyo the last shogun..
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The daimyo (大名, daimyō) were the most powerful feudal rulers from the 10th century to the 19th century in Japan. From the shugo of the muromachi period through the sengoku to the daimyo of the Edo period, the rank had a long and varied history. It was usually, though not exclusively, from these warlords that a shogun arose.
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01-30-2008, 08:54 AM
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Re: Overpowered stoneskin needs changing - badly
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Originally Posted by Demron
Daimyo
FYI, Cyst is only 71, will be 72 in oh, 8 kills, or two quests so I havn't used the Dispersion yet. Instead I've been fighting 80s from 69-71 now with him.
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Originally Posted by Demron
If they cure root, they can't cure snare, or vice versa.
If they drink an immunity potion, use Pumice Stone, it removes it almost every time. Fettering poison isn't the only uncurable snare, tinkered snare and roots are also uncurable.
Even still, a caster can't do any auto attack damage so they have to be able to cure stifle, stun, snare, root, et cetera to continue to use manashield once it's fired.
So if you use snare/root immunity, you can't use stun/stifle immunity, vice versa. So you're left with Cure Arcane, or Cure Trauma depending on what's used.
How many classes can remove Manashield with debuffs? Not including Pumice Stones which are not as effective now. There is another option too, Bottle of Ether is a very long mesmerize that everyone in the game can use. I HATE EVEN GIVING THIS INFORMATION OUT!!
Also fear works great too. I had a Inqy prevent me from getting off manashield early one morning.
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Originally Posted by Demron
That's the one thing I LOVE about casters. If I start casting a spell on you, and you move out of my LoS, or Range, it still hits you. That's why before you run, you need to start off with a stun, stifle, or interrupt.
I will admit, I can't kill Arcanias YET on my Ranger, but I'm still only 79 on him. I'm hoping once I get the CoA or Maidens bow, I can better judge his strength.
But oddly enough, I got him in the red on Cyst in Terens Grasp when Cyst was only 70. /cry
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Originally Posted by Demron
I didn't have the key, T7 bows. I actually sold my Bylze bow before I realized that's what everyone was using. Currently I use the bow out of Riliss and I out parse anyone using a T7 bow, just don't don't come close to those with the CoA, Maidens, or PvP bow.
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Originally Posted by Demron
Give me a break. A scout can remain virtually untargeted with all the deaggro procs, and abilities, yet this is overpowered Kruhl? Cracks me up a Brigand is crying he had to actually fight a caster, instead of annhilate him.
What's worse is the fact Assassins can double proc rates. Stacking healing procs, warding procs, deagro procs, et cetera a well equipped Assassin can be impossible to kill.
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Originally Posted by Demron
My 6 year old daughter could beat manashield with a quick snare/root and move out of Wizard or Warlocks range until it expires. I beat manashield all the time on my Ranger without burning through it.
I've played both sides and KNOW for a fact a skilled player can overcome it easily. Try it.
And an Assassin can double their proc rates.
P.S. Oh, and there are 16 slots, not counting poisons for heals or deagro. ;)
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Just a select few of them tbh.. not a single mention of dispersion.. /sigh
/back-on-topic
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The daimyo (大名, daimyō) were the most powerful feudal rulers from the 10th century to the 19th century in Japan. From the shugo of the muromachi period through the sengoku to the daimyo of the Edo period, the rank had a long and varied history. It was usually, though not exclusively, from these warlords that a shogun arose.
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01-30-2008, 10:08 AM
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Character: Popsi
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Re: Overpowered stoneskin needs changing - badly
nerf dispersion on sorcerers tbh
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01-30-2008, 10:20 AM
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Character: Salsa
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Re: Overpowered stoneskin needs changing - badly
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Originally Posted by Popsi
nerf dispersion on sorcerers tbh
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Or just fix Propagation and make it work on spells only as the description says.
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01-30-2008, 10:24 AM
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Re: Overpowered stoneskin needs changing - badly
yeh wtf are items getting boosted for
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01-30-2008, 12:59 PM
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Re: Overpowered stoneskin needs changing - badly
Dispersion is fine with Manashield. Just beat Manashield like you would any other time. Or when all else fails, pick up a Mystic or Defiler and watch what Scourge does to Manashield.
No one is saying, I shouldn't kill clothies in 3-5 seconds on my class, nerf me. They're saying, "I can't kill that clothie in 3-5 seconds anymore, nerf them".
They nerfed the Ranger hard, and I'm still easily killing cloth classes on my Ranger, even Wizards and Warlocks. Right now the only two Warlocks I can't kill are Mentis, and Arcanias.
Last edited by Demron; 01-30-2008 at 01:01 PM.
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01-31-2008, 02:24 PM
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Re: Overpowered stoneskin needs changing - badly
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Originally Posted by firamas
that's right, because throwing one overpowered mechanic into the game to make a few people feel better about the fact that they wear cloth armor is a great idea. awesome strat. =)
oh, and btw, scouts are supposed to dominate mages in 1v1. not seeing an even 50/50 split in your win/loss vs scouts? GOOD! go jump in a fucking group if you want your class to be properly balanced.
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Do us all a favor and post the section in the PVP policies or the EULA where it says scouts are supposed to own face on all mages. Seriously, you people create the most absurd bullshit.
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