Summoners ever getting a fix? - Page 3

Dracot · 01-23-2008, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marou

people give you the answers to your problems Dracot and all you do is piss and moan about how you're not good enough to take down scouts. What do you expect us to do, say "Oh okay, yeah you're right necros sure do suck because you're a retard. I'll go buy a tin shortsword and fight you with it now just to make it fair" ?

Yet another typical response from a player who's too retarded to play a class that would require an ounce of skill to play. You fucks who play scouts have no skill. It doesn't take fucking rocket science to push 3 buttons from stealth and claim "I'M GOD, I WIN!!!" Your the same type of people who end up working the drive thru at McDonalds cause your too fucking stupid and lazy to work for anything.

Back to subject at hand, why do you piss and moan about how great a summoner is when you clearly know that is the one class in game who won't give you an ounce of trouble? Oh you might get feared for a second or 2 maybe rooted, but all in all its the same effect, you get to drop out around 6k+ dmg in 2 seconds and most summoners have around 7k hps if that. So go fiuck yourself and your scout for all I care. Yet another forums infected with the scum of the internet who can't do a fucking thing but push 2 buttons. Has absolutley nothing to do with being GOOD or not as a necro asshole. It has to do with the lack of mechanics in the game for a necro to survive.

Ratface · 01-23-2008, 07:37 PM

Shut the fuck up Dracot, you suck at necro.

Get over it, reroll.

Beandip · 01-23-2008, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dracot

Conj have more burst dps than necro. We have DOTS...(DAMAGE OVER TIME) and one nuke for about 1kish if not resisted, there is no possible way to FAST killa s a necro. We are not Designed to kill fast.

Ya, they have more solid nukes, they dont have dots, a 1kish nuke? please the old m2 lifetap did more then that. Theres a definite way to kill fast as a necro. You need to better asset your skills as a necro.

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Originally Posted by Dracot

Yet another typical response from a player who's too retarded to play a class that would require an ounce of skill to play. You fucks who play scouts have no skill. It doesn't take fucking rocket science to push 3 buttons from stealth and claim "I'M GOD, I WIN!!!" Your the same type of people who end up working the drive thru at McDonalds cause your too fucking stupid and lazy to work for anything.

Back to subject at hand, why do you piss and moan about how great a summoner is when you clearly know that is the one class in game who won't give you an ounce of trouble? Oh you might get feared for a second or 2 maybe rooted, but all in all its the same effect, you get to drop out around 6k+ dmg in 2 seconds and most summoners have around 7k hps if that. So go fiuck yourself and your scout for all I care. Yet another forums infected with the scum of the internet who can't do a fucking thing but push 2 buttons. Has absolutley nothing to do with being GOOD or not as a necro asshole. It has to do with the lack of mechanics in the game for a necro to survive.

First off, WOW, you practically ignored all advice anyones tossed you so far. You complain about scouts needing no skill, but from the pissing and moaning its like you want you necro to be a 2 button mashing easy class. I've had more trouble from necros then i have from some scouts, frankly a big server populace can't play in general. Now about your low "health pool", guess what necros have? LIFETAPS, use em, if its a scout your ganna be able to be using the aoe and the regular one, i dont know the t8 lifetap but the old one at m2 healed atleast 600 on a non-crit. And incase you skipped my advice, go for the stoneskin items, they aren't too fard to farm if you put in some dedication, they help shield some of that "6k" damage every scout knows how to shell off. Other items to go for are heal procs, damage procs and ward procs, theres alot of random nifty procs on all this new cloth shit, I'm sure if you thought out your class and gear you could come up with something to get an edge.

aeeron · 01-24-2008, 12:32 AM

eh when i was in qeynos i had that robe from nest, the orb from nest, pvp shoulders, and the shield of magi.

that added up to about 1k dmg in hostile spell wards. Its good stuff, with that an in combation with the Stoneskin proc gear your mage survivablity will go ^^^^.

Nihlathak · 01-24-2008, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Beandip

Ya, they have more solid nukes, they dont have dots, a 1kish nuke? please the old m2 lifetap did more then that. Theres a definite way to kill fast as a necro. You need to better asset your skills as a necro.

First off, WOW, you practically ignored all advice anyones tossed you so far. You complain about scouts needing no skill, but from the pissing and moaning its like you want you necro to be a 2 button mashing easy class. I've had more trouble from necros then i have from some scouts, frankly a big server populace can't play in general. Now about your low "health pool", guess what necros have? LIFETAPS, use em, if its a scout your ganna be able to be using the aoe and the regular one, i dont know the t8 lifetap but the old one at m2 healed atleast 600 on a non-crit. And incase you skipped my advice, go for the stoneskin items, they aren't too fard to farm if you put in some dedication, they help shield some of that "6k" damage every scout knows how to shell off. Other items to go for are heal procs, damage procs and ward procs, theres alot of random nifty procs on all this new cloth shit, I'm sure if you thought out your class and gear you could come up with something to get an edge.

There's really nothing more helpful to be said beyond Beandips advice.

Dracot, If you REALLY want to improve as a summoner, do what he's suggested and learn to undermine your opponents strengths with what you're given.

My guess is you won't take any of this to heart though, considering as it requires too much intelligence/skill/effort to get the items and learn the playstyle. I predict you'll either /quit or reroll a scout or reroll on a PvE server by the end of the month, because you don't seem like the type of player who wants to improve himself by any means neccessary; it looks to me like you just wanna cry about people who have the upper hand until we all get sick of trying to help you out, and eventually just ignore your bitching all together.

tl;dr
You've been given tools and advice, use them or shut the fuck up.

fsbroli3 · 01-24-2008, 12:32 PM

Necros do need a little help, imo they took away the two biggest things i used to PvP. The AGI line where we could give our scout pet like 20%+ crit and the STA like where our tank pet had a 20% chance to absorb like 72% dmg. Now we get some spell absorption shit, like i really need that with how easy it is to resist spells.

We dont have the burst damage conj's have, scout and tank pet have a 2 second stifle i believe, which never lands. Swarm pets are useless because the simple ae's anyone has kill them instantly.

We get a 1 sec cast stun, thats like 5% Harder to resist as m1, that shit never lands in pvp. Fear lands more often but with a 30% chance to dispell when dmg is taken makes it just a way to hopefully have 1-2 seconds to cast one spell. Same thing my root never lands either.We get 1 unresistable dot that doesnt do very much and a Lifetap that says it does 1400 base in pvp and heals for maby 800 thats like a 2 second cast, but im lucky to get a crit for 1k (having only 800int but almost 8khp, 440 disruption and 38% crit.).

Good luck with getting 4 pieces of dispersion gear too, when they were on the broker it was like 60p a piece, and its next to impossible to loot them.

What they should do is give our old specs back, make swarms an uncurable dot, upgrade tank pet taunts, make our debuffs unresistable/instant cast.

With how easily my spells get resisted, its hard to keep anyone off us. Need a knockback or something to give us some time. Its pretty hard to get anything off being auto attacked for 1k+, bow hits for 2k+. Just the other day i got hit by a swash with a 3.4k crit ranged attack, how thats possible i dont know.

Ive never seen another necro with it, but i sported the Master title for the longest time in t7 mostly solo and some duo so none of this L2P shit. I recently rolled an assassin and its just unbelievably easy to kill people with shit gear and not many ad3's.

Dracot · 01-24-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Beandip

Ya, they have more solid nukes, they dont have dots, a 1kish nuke? please the old m2 lifetap did more then that. Theres a definite way to kill fast as a necro. You need to better asset your skills as a necro.

First off, WOW, you practically ignored all advice anyones tossed you so far. You complain about scouts needing no skill, but from the pissing and moaning its like you want you necro to be a 2 button mashing easy class. I've had more trouble from necros then i have from some scouts, frankly a big server populace can't play in general. Now about your low "health pool", guess what necros have? LIFETAPS, use em, if its a scout your ganna be able to be using the aoe and the regular one, i dont know the t8 lifetap but the old one at m2 healed atleast 600 on a non-crit. And incase you skipped my advice, go for the stoneskin items, they aren't too fard to farm if you put in some dedication, they help shield some of that "6k" damage every scout knows how to shell off. Other items to go for are heal procs, damage procs and ward procs, theres alot of random nifty procs on all this new cloth shit, I'm sure if you thought out your class and gear you could come up with something to get an edge.

I havent ignored you, I already have 2 of the dispersion items and i use all pots religiously. The lietaps in pvp average around 800-1k dmg on a crit, jsut becasue the spell says it will do 1600ish does not mean it will do that amount in pvp. I don't want a 2 button mashing class, hell if i could get maybe 2 spells in b4 dieing it would be nice for a change.
I've sat and discussed in depth now with GM's via petitions and emails and they have confirmed to me that the necro class is being looked into, so all who are saying the class is fine, explain that to the people who are running the game who are now showing us some agreements that the class needs fixing. Hell, one of the test updates even shows they are working on the pet pathings now too.

Back to the lifetaps a sec, 600 inc heal, vs 500 autoattack dmg doesnt help much on an almost 20 second recast timer.

Also does anyone have a link to all 4 of the items that proc the Stoneskin? I ewven went as far as to buy the book from the Sel'nok camp in JW that gives us a 25% chance increase to all procs for 33 seconds.

Dracot · 01-24-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fsbroli3

Necros do need a little help, imo they took away the two biggest things i used to PvP. The AGI line where we could give our scout pet like 20%+ crit and the STA like where our tank pet had a 20% chance to absorb like 72% dmg. Now we get some spell absorption shit, like i really need that with how easy it is to resist spells.

We dont have the burst damage conj's have, scout and tank pet have a 2 second stifle i believe, which never lands. Swarm pets are useless because the simple ae's anyone has kill them instantly.

We get a 1 sec cast stun, thats like 5% Harder to resist as m1, that shit never lands in pvp. Fear lands more often but with a 30% chance to dispell when dmg is taken makes it just a way to hopefully have 1-2 seconds to cast one spell. Same thing my root never lands either.We get 1 unresistable dot that doesnt do very much and a Lifetap that says it does 1400 base in pvp and heals for maby 800 thats like a 2 second cast, but im lucky to get a crit for 1k (having only 800int but almost 8khp, 440 disruption and 38% crit.).

Good luck with getting 4 pieces of dispersion gear too, when they were on the broker it was like 60p a piece, and its next to impossible to loot them.

What they should do is give our old specs back, make swarms an uncurable dot, upgrade tank pet taunts, make our debuffs unresistable/instant cast.

With how easily my spells get resisted, its hard to keep anyone off us. Need a knockback or something to give us some time. Its pretty hard to get anything off being auto attacked for 1k+, bow hits for 2k+. Just the other day i got hit by a swash with a 3.4k crit ranged attack, how thats possible i dont know.

Ive never seen another necro with it, but i sported the Master title for the longest time in t7 mostly solo and some duo so none of this L2P shit. I recently rolled an assassin and its just unbelievably easy to kill people with shit gear and not many ad3's.

I've sat around at Dread for quite awhile in t7 only due to roaming with a warden and brig group who played imo unfairly by simply ganking people as they landed. Anytime anyone starts a thread about summoners we see all the fast dps classes invading the threads instead of trying to be helpful, even though some of you have. Anyone who's played the class at t7+ knows the pain, and the others who claim L2P never had the balls to try it at higher tiers, simply cause mashing 2 buttons ona easy mode class takes so much more skill.

Zacii · 01-24-2008, 07:33 PM

lol, one time, as a brigand I was questing in fens and I used my ranged ca which is 2 decent damage hits and a knockback, and one ranged autoattack and the conj died lulz, true story.

Dracot · 01-25-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratface

Shut the fuck up Dracot, you suck at necro.

Get over it, reroll.

Can you educate me on your expertise at sucking at life then?

Don't worry bud, mommy and daddy won't hate you forever, there will be love sometime in life for you.