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View Poll Results: Is shifting band overpowered in PVP?
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This item is extremely overpowered and should be nerfed hard
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This item is somewhat overpowered and should be nerfed some
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31.25% |
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This item is fine and doesn't need any type of adjustment
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39.58% |
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This item isn't powerful enough and should be improved
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01-31-2008, 06:50 AM
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second worst brigand on Nagafen
Character: Become
Guild: Vae Victis
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 2,010
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by Popsi
you want to know the funny thing about exiles?
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you want to know the funny thing about exiles? we'd still be saying dispersion, averted eyes, reactive fear, etc etc is overpowered, even if we could use PvP gear. we're not greedy, and we're not stupid. exiles, just like everyone else, want a balanced, enjoyable PvP environment.
hell, our mages still can (and do) use dispersion gear. they agree it's overpowered. however, do you think ANY of them has any illusions about it being nerfed sometime in the near future? fuck no.
oh, and don't give me that "you guys can get PVE gear that we cant". that is false, and has been debated in other threads many times over. reference those threads if you want to see the unfortunate reasons why city guilds fail.
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01-31-2008, 09:41 AM
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Shut up Spalding!
Character: Paikis
Guild: Veritas Aequitas
Server: Venekor
Posts: 767
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by firamas
Exiles, just like everyone else, want to win as many fights as they can
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Fixed that one for you. people don't like losing and will do anything to keep whatever advantages they have.
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Originally Posted by firamas
oh, and don't give me that "you guys can get PVE gear that we cant". that is false, and has been debated in other threads many times over. reference those threads if you want to see the unfortunate reasons why city guilds fail.
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Would you prefer it if I said that exile guilds can (and do) have a much easier time of killing raid targets? City guilds *CAN* kill things, but being exiled and having all classes makes it easier, which means they get gear faster, which means they kill the next stuff faster. Search all my psots, I have never said city guilds CANNOT kill things, only that being exiled makes it much easier.
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01-31-2008, 12:49 PM
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Character: Demron
Server: Venekor
Posts: 872
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by Marou
What the fuck are you going on about size for? The Shifting Band is not a shrink item and this is not a shrink item thread.
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Do you not see how shrink + averting eyes can be a problem right now? Anyone that requires range like a Ranger or someone at range like a Mage is going to have a hell of a time when they can't "tab" for you, and they can't physically see you.
This is the new combination I've experienced.
Last edited by Demron; 01-31-2008 at 12:54 PM.
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01-31-2008, 12:52 PM
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Regular
Character: Demron
Server: Venekor
Posts: 872
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by Daimyo
TBH I hate this guy already.. he talks shit because he never stays on topic. 36 BS posts..
I even highlighted 6+ posts of irrelavent shit and he still tries to de-rail threads.. he needs more friends to talk to, needs to make a facebook/myspace account and leave these forums alone imo.
/back on topic
~Daimyo the last shogun..
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Because you're too fucking dumb to see how combination of things can lead to problems. Alone one item isn't too powerful, or overpowered, but together with other things, problems can happen.
Don't like me, but fucking learn to read and comprehend.
Shrink by itself isn't a problem, neither is this deagro proc, but together they pose a huge fucking problem when you can't physically see someone just out of melee range. Especially for a Ranger.
Is that clear enough english for you, are are you still going to be a retarded dick?
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01-31-2008, 12:59 PM
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Regular
Character: Demron
Server: Venekor
Posts: 872
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
I'll help you two morons out since you skipped over the one key sentence.
Every single time it proc'd, or he used his abilities to clear target, I had to wait for him to hit me again in order to get a target.
Do I need to explain what "IT" is referring to?
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01-31-2008, 01:08 PM
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Regular
Character: Demron
Server: Venekor
Posts: 872
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
P.S. The entire point, and I know you'll miss it, is this. If you truly don't think this item is overpowered, and I don't. You had better wake up and point out in feedback, and bug reports to developers why it isn't and how other aspects of the game are making it look like this item is overpowered. Aspects that need fixed.
It pisses me off when idiots defend an item with stupidity. Because it usually ends up nerfed any how because they can't defend it with constructive reasoning.
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01-31-2008, 03:29 PM
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second worst brigand on Nagafen
Character: Become
Guild: Vae Victis
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 2,010
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
i have argued for all of the nerfs (dispersion, pvp effects) using constructive criticism. the problem is that most people are too stupid to understand simple logic and reason when it related to game balance. =(
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01-31-2008, 03:52 PM
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Slave Trader
Character: Bojin- Technics-Dankshasta
Guild: Resurrection and Reavers of Fate
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 3,416
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by firamas
i have argued for all of the nerfs (dispersion, pvp effects) using constructive criticism. the problem is that most people are too stupid to understand simple logic and reason when it related to game balance. =(
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It's you man, YOU are the problem, but don;t even see it.You look at everything completely narrowminded, you never tryed to raid shit in faction, but your an expert on that. You miscalculate weapon dmg increases by only using DR, and I could go on and on. Your arguments are broken, disattached to game mechanics, and biased in everyway.
OMFG!! Become why don't you shut that fucking cum trap of yours and go PvP, instead of only talking about it!!
Last edited by Dankshasta; 01-31-2008 at 03:59 PM.
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02-01-2008, 07:05 AM
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L337 Poster
Character: Popsi
Guild: ~not
Server: Nagafen
Posts: 4,099
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
lol at all the whinging exiles who dont want anyone but themselves to have any slight gear advantage lolololololo
This item is extremely overpowered and should be nerfed hard   Arkarius, Beandip, Belgue, Borias, coltsfancolts, Comalv, firamas, Gregos, Hael, hennyo, Illuminator, LFG, mflash, Pett, Snark, Swass, UGAdawg
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02-01-2008, 06:00 PM
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sarcasm > you
Guild: Darkhand
Server: Deathwhisper
Posts: 1,806
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by Dankshasta
It's you man, YOU are the problem, but don;t even see it.You look at everything completely narrowminded, you never tryed to raid shit in faction, but your an expert on that. You miscalculate weapon dmg increases by only using DR, and I could go on and on. Your arguments are broken, disattached to game mechanics, and biased in everyway.
OMFG!! Become why don't you shut that fucking cum trap of yours and go PvP, instead of only talking about it!!
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qft~! qfe?
Popsi, change my vote to #2.
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