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View Poll Results: Is shifting band overpowered in PVP?
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This item is extremely overpowered and should be nerfed hard
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20.83% |
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This item is somewhat overpowered and should be nerfed some
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31.25% |
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This item is fine and doesn't need any type of adjustment
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39.58% |
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This item isn't powerful enough and should be improved
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8.33% |
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01-28-2008, 01:16 AM
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Shut up Spalding!
Character: Paikis
Guild: Veritas Aequitas
Server: Venekor
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by firamas
Rogues/Preds already get enough deaggros, 20% chance off ANY damage is retardedly high.
i don't give a shit about the dmg portion of it, but that constant forced deaggro is just rape when used by Rogues/Preds.
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Fixed.
For the record, bards get exactly 1 (one) deagro. It can be used every 20 seconds.
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01-28-2008, 03:02 AM
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by Paikis
Fixed.
For the record, bards get exactly 1 (one) deagro. It can be used every 20 seconds.
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Bards aren't scouts. 
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01-28-2008, 03:22 AM
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Shut up Spalding!
Character: Paikis
Guild: Veritas Aequitas
Server: Venekor
Posts: 733
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
I sort of agree, but at the same time...
Bards:
[x] Tracking
[x] Stealth
[x] Evac
[ ] Poison
We've got all the 'scout' tools (except poison). The problem is that 'scouts' are usually nerfed or balanced without taking bards into account. I dont remember ever running up to a group, ganking their mage in one hit and then evaccing...yet evac was nerfed because of 'scouts' who could do that.
People need to stop whining about 'scouts' and start complaining about rogues and predators. Having said that... LFG I don't see you complaining about the PvP ring that healers can use which makes them immune to control effects. (I know you dont have it, but even so)
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01-28-2008, 03:27 AM
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Character: Popsi
Guild: ~not
Server: Nagafen
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
pls upgrade this item to aorund 45-50% please, thanks.
no but seriously stfu calling for nerfs, th eitems that mages and priests can get to is insane... prisets get a shield with a deaggro on it... the same thing. mages get items that increase casting speed by 50%, uber for fission/rift etc. there are items to increase tracking avoidance that work very well, why hsud the one that makes scouts better be nerfed and not the others acordingly. dont nerf, nerfings for gays
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01-28-2008, 03:27 AM
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
and LFG seriously stop complaining you could have these items too if you didnt get lured to exile to raid easymode.
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01-28-2008, 03:52 AM
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by Popsi
and LFG seriously stop complaining you could have these items too if you didnt get lured to exile to raid easymode.
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Nowhere in here did I complain bud. I didn't.
I simply asked for opinions on whether this item was overpowered. I believe it is.
I report bugs in game when I see things that aren't right, even when the problem benefits me. I'm not going to just say nothing when I think something is a problem. It doesn't matter whether I'm in exile, this item would still be overpowered if I was on city faction and trying to get one.
If it isn't right, it isn't right, and needs to be fixed. This item is insanely overpowered in my opinion, and whether I can get one or not has nothing to do with that fact.
Regarding your easy mode comment: I enjoy raiding. I've always been in a hardcore raid guild since T5.
I never intended to give that up when I came here, I just wanted to add some pvp to my game. It's true I joined an established guild that can kill shit, but what are the other raiding options on Nagafen? Exile guilds that can defeat all end game content, and city faction guilds that are unable or unwilling to do so.
Sorry, but I'm getting the best of both worlds now, I get to raid and every single toon on the server is attackable to me. You can call that easy mode if you want, I call it working toward and achieving my goals. I simply wouldn't be happy playing the game the way you play it, since I enjoy being in a guild that can defeat current boss mobs.
Since we're on the subject, it seems to me that people on city faction are half blue. You're not red, you're purple. It's you who plays and travels on easy mode, because you can only be attacked by less than half the people who can attack me.
I'm on easy mode? No u.
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Last edited by LFG : 01-28-2008 at 03:56 AM.
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01-28-2008, 04:00 AM
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I took the red pill :(
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
I apologize for voting as a PvE'er. But that item just looked retarded by any definition.
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01-28-2008, 04:01 AM
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Shut up Spalding!
Character: Paikis
Guild: Veritas Aequitas
Server: Venekor
Posts: 733
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
By asking if something is overpowered, you are looking for other people to back you up. As you stated above, you *DO* think its overpowered (and on some classes I agree). Now that we've established that, lets look at the options in your poll.
1. This item is extremely overpowered and should be nerfed hard
Now maybe its just coincidence that you put this first, maybe you have OCD and have to order things one way or another... i think you put this first because it's what you think and/or want to happen. Look at all the polls on this site. They either ask you a question and give you 4 different ways of agreeing with the poster, or they are like this one, where the poster's opinion is the one that is first.
Sorry LFG, looks to me like you DO think its overpowered, and you DO want it nerfed hard.
P.S the ring is not 'bugged' its working exactly as the description says it will. It may be overpowered, but it's certainly not bugged. I also have to LOL at anyone in exile who has the balls to call faction players easy-moders.
LOL
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01-28-2008, 04:30 AM
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by LFG
Nowhere in here did I complain bud. I didn't.
I simply asked for opinions on whether this item was overpowered. I believe it is.
I report bugs in game when I see things that aren't right, even when the problem benefits me. I'm not going to just say nothing when I think something is a problem. It doesn't matter whether I'm in exile, this item would still be overpowered if I was on city faction and trying to get one.
If it isn't right, it isn't right, and needs to be fixed. This item is insanely overpowered in my opinion, and whether I can get one or not has nothing to do with that fact.
Regarding your easy mode comment: I enjoy raiding. I've always been in a hardcore raid guild since T5.
I never intended to give that up when I came here, I just wanted to add some pvp to my game. It's true I joined an established guild that can kill shit, but what are the other raiding options on Nagafen? Exile guilds that can defeat all end game content, and city faction guilds that are unable or unwilling to do so.
Sorry, but I'm getting the best of both worlds now, I get to raid and every single toon on the server is attackable to me. You can call that easy mode if you want, I call it working toward and achieving my goals. I simply wouldn't be happy playing the game the way you play it, since I enjoy being in a guild that can defeat current boss mobs.
Since we're on the subject, it seems to me that people on city faction are half blue. You're not red, you're purple. It's you who plays and travels on easy mode, because you can only be attacked by less than half the people who can attack me.
I'm on easy mode? No u.
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ok fair enough, soz i get you, but the items are powerful for a reason... the reason is this :
we are all here to PvP yes, some people exile to get the best PVE gear to make them better at PVP, what can the faction guilds do to compete against this armor, im no hardcore raider dont get me wrong if i wanted to raid i would have applied to an exile guild a long long time ago, but the factions guilds SIMPLY cannot kill the mobs that the exile guilds can so eaisly, it will take us months an dmonths of pulls on mobs that ar ebeing farmed right now by onyx and kraken. we need the pvp items to be powerful to compete against the 'pve'ers' on the server who have the best gear not because they are good at pvp or spend a long time pvping, but because they can kill mobs we cant.
example : my guild has just started tier 2, weve killed a few nameds in tier2 alredy,but we know for 100% FACT, that as a qeynos guild right now, we cant clear temple of korsha, not saying its impossible, but with the qeynos classes i think are dps is gonna ahve to go up a shit tonne to clear it, the only reason we cant kill kodux and zarda is cos we cant do enuf dps, for no other reason  but exiles an kill it with ease cos they have all classes, tell me now why it is fair on a pvp server that the people who pvp more get less rewards for pvping than those who dont pvp.
seems abuot fair to me that these items are very powerful tbh.
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01-28-2008, 06:56 AM
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by Marou
Don't you detarget every time concealment stealths you?
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Sadly no... it has a 5% chance to proc a break target (i.e. almost never) = horrible ability which breaks after "any" damage .. everyone thinks is awesome...
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