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View Poll Results: Is shifting band overpowered in PVP?
This item is extremely overpowered and should be nerfed hard 20 20.83%
This item is somewhat overpowered and should be nerfed some 30 31.25%
This item is fine and doesn't need any type of adjustment 38 39.58%
This item isn't powerful enough and should be improved 8 8.33%
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Old 01-29-2008, 02:36 AM  
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Mages getting alot of dispersion is just balancing them out finally imo...If you played a mage thru KoS and EoF (I didn't play one but I saw and heard it everyday) and got 1-3 shot by any scout for 2 years then you would know that...Mage dispersion is fine...20% on this item is too high...7% is reasonable
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Old 01-29-2008, 06:26 AM  
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ok it doesnt matter what you think of the balance n this game we all know its ufcked up, but having mages with 35% stoneskin +whatever stoneskin buffs they get from their grp is overpowered, manashield lasts forever, goign for mages in grp pvp is pointless, it makes more sense to burn the tank now because hes easier to damage than the coercer? thats fucked up, i dont care wtf class u say i play and how powerful it is, but this is screwed imo. 1 little item for scouts that deaggros 20% and ppl cry nerf? without looking at the other item? theres a priest buckler weve tlaked about, theres about 20 uber uber uber items on that merchant, so before u cry nerf for one maybe look into the rest of them first
QFE.. for an effect available to every class except mages.. how can you say this effect is OP... /lol... priceless...

A lot of the pvp merchant items are powerful, they are supposed to be...

Next on the agenda to moan about.. exhibit 245.. brawler weapon which dispels beneficial effects with a proc rate based on an offensive attack.. (guess you haven't been owned by this yet so there is no point complaining... yet...)..

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Mages getting alot of dispersion is just balancing them out finally imo...If you played a mage thru KoS and EoF (I didn't play one but I saw and heard it everyday) and got 1-3 shot by any scout for 2 years then you would know that...Mage dispersion is fine...20% on this item is too high...7% is reasonable
As I just said, these items are supposed to be powerful. 7% just makes it well.. not powerful... and not worth 300 tokens.. go figure..

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Mages getting alot of dispersion is just balancing them out finally imo...If you played a mage thru KoS and EoF (I didn't play one but I saw and heard it everyday) and got 1-3 shot by any scout for 2 years then you would know that...Mage dispersion is fine for non-sorcerors...20% on this item is too high...7% is reasonable
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QFE.. for an effect available to every class except mages.. how can you say this effect is OP... /lol... priceless...

A lot of the pvp merchant items are powerful, they are supposed to be...

Next on the agenda to moan about.. exhibit 245.. brawler weapon which dispels beneficial effects with a proc rate based on an offensive attack.. (guess you haven't been owned by this yet so there is no point complaining... yet...)..

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Stupid items like this and that gay ring just add on to the pile of reasons why so many people, like myself, hate to PvP in this game now.

They involve no skill, you're getting extra bonuses for mashing buttons or auto attacking, and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

I wish they would disable all potions and item procs in pvp combat.
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:14 AM  
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did you ever pvp to begin with?
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:45 AM  
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did you ever pvp to begin with?
Yes.
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:03 AM  
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Yes.
All the classes get powerful PvP items (they are supposed to be powerful)... and i'm sure powerful PvE orientated raid loot...

Go figure...

What is annoying for me is that when someone invests a large amount of time into aquiring these unique items, there is a mass of people who complain about them.

What is sad is... these complainers generally fit into the catagory of people who haven't invested any significant amount of time into the game in the same way. i.e. they don't pvp a lot and when they get owned by someone who does and has pvp items.. they come here and complain.

The mechanic isn't broken nor is it in anyway OP imo.. however.. there are people out there who would like to nerf gear they are too lazy to get..

I haven't read a single thread about any priest with the shield and that effect being OP on them. Why? because there is only probably 2 priests on nagafen who have the shield and not enough people have been owned by it yet who are too lazy to gear up themselves..

/yawn..

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P.S. As colourful as the poll is.. it is clearly unfair and not very clear. Why? because it should also state what classes have voted since I'm sure someone with this item will vote for a boost or it's stable vs. all the mages who complain and want it nerf'd.

Therefore if twice as many mages vote, the poll is clearly wrong and unaccurate. Same as if twice as many scouts with the item vote.. This ofcourse is not set in stone but "who" votes should be taken into consideration..
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Give it a year, at least.

We havn't even seen full guilds with the best gear in the game, and the damage is only going to increase. Yet we have people crying about dispersion, and deagro items.
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Old 01-29-2008, 11:26 AM  
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I seriously doubt there will ever be more casters than there are scouts.
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