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View Poll Results: Is shifting band overpowered in PVP?
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This item is extremely overpowered and should be nerfed hard
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This item is somewhat overpowered and should be nerfed some
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This item is fine and doesn't need any type of adjustment
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This item isn't powerful enough and should be improved
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01-27-2008, 03:47 AM
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Is this item overpowered for PVP?
I'm not stating any opinions, but am curious about PVP community feedback.

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01-27-2008, 04:49 AM
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Character: Nihlathak
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
I agree with Kruhl, it's one of the few PvP rewards decent enough to merit spending 300 tokens. I'd probably say the only other scout available item (because I don't know about the rest of the archtype PvP rewards) that's really worth it's cost is the boomerang.
20% may seem like alot, but Averted Eyes can be and often is resisted by your opponent, and as far as I know every archtype besides mage can get an item with Averted Eyes on it?
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01-27-2008, 06:01 AM
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Guild: Norrath Pirates
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
20% proc chance is too high, coupled with all he other deaggros, its very hard to target scouts with this on, and tbh they kill you fast enough without any deaggros.
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01-27-2008, 08:09 PM
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by Marou
I agree with Kruhl, it's one of the few PvP rewards decent enough to merit spending 300 tokens. I'd probably say the only other scout available item (because I don't know about the rest of the archtype PvP rewards) that's really worth it's cost is the boomerang.
20% may seem like alot, but Averted Eyes can be and often is resisted by your opponent, and as far as I know every archtype besides mage can get an item with Averted Eyes on it?
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Yeh, I know for a fact there is a priest only shield with this effect and there is an earring for mage as well I think. Sure about shield.. earring i'd need to confirm...
This is a worthy reward for 300 tokens... imo not at all OP..
If the item/effect is available to all, then it is very hard to be classified as being OP... in combination with other degarro? only the rogues get efficient deaggro skillz... my assassin gets 1 and a slow cast invis... nothing to see there tbh.. especially if all it takes is a "macro" o getlast hostile target..
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01-27-2008, 09:07 PM
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Character: Nihlathak
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by Daimyo
Yeh, I know for a fact there is a priest only shield with this effect and there is an earring for mage as well I think. Sure about shield.. earring i'd need to confirm...
This is a worthy reward for 300 tokens... imo not at all OP..
If the item/effect is available to all, then it is very hard to be classified as being OP... in combination with other degarro? only the rogues get efficient deaggro skillz... my assassin gets 1 and a slow cast invis... nothing to see there tbh.. especially if all it takes is a "macro" o getlast hostile target..
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Don't you detarget every time concealment stealths you?
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01-27-2008, 10:57 PM
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How do I fortune?
Character: Peak
Guild: Onyx
Server: Nagafen
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by Daimyo
Yeh, I know for a fact there is a priest only shield with this effect and there is an earring for mage as well I think. Sure about shield.. earring i'd need to confirm...
This is a worthy reward for 300 tokens... imo not at all OP..
If the item/effect is available to all, then it is very hard to be classified as being OP... in combination with other degarro? only the rogues get efficient deaggro skillz... my assassin gets 1 and a slow cast invis... nothing to see there tbh.. especially if all it takes is a "macro" o getlast hostile target..
~Daimyo the last shogun
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Mages don't have a deaggro proc which makes me sad.
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01-28-2008, 12:53 AM
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Character: Become
Guild: The Kraken
Server: Nagafen
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
scouts already get enough deaggros, 20% chance off ANY damage is retardedly high.
i don't give a shit about the dmg portion of it, but that constant forced deaggro is just rape.
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01-28-2008, 01:02 AM
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Character: Bish Please
Guild: Onyx
Server: Nagafen
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by firamas
scouts already get enough deaggros, 20% chance off ANY damage is retardedly high.
i don't give a shit about the dmg portion of it, but that constant forced deaggro is just rape.
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I'm frankly amazed that we agree on something.
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01-28-2008, 01:14 AM
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raidwide shards.....
Character: aeeron
Guild: the kraken
Server: nagafen
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Re: Is this item overpowered for PVP?
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Originally Posted by firamas
scouts already get enough deaggros, 20% chance off ANY damage is retardedly high.
i don't give a shit about the dmg portion of it, but that constant forced deaggro is just rape.
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yeah become is my guildie and i never agree with him half the time, but when most scouts aleady have an ability that puts u into stealth and drops target, a evade that drops target, and brigands/swashbucklers have a deaggro stance that procs like 3.0 times per min that drops target 20% is a bit much on a proc item. Mages should get an item with the same ability if scouts do ( forgive me if mages already do i havnt seen the pvp armor).
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